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"Vendoring" to the guild bank
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In running a guild and managing the guild bank, I'm often buying mats to make stuff for the guild bank. Herbs, ore, leather, etc. And while donations from guild members are very helpful in this, for the quantities needed, it's not enough. What more is I know the guildies have the herbs, ore, and etc, cause I find it on the ah. Even having said to them the guild bank will buy those mats is not enough to really get their mats coming in. Most likely because it is a hassle to track down someone with bank control to withdraw gold, trade it to the guildy, and get the herbs. If there is no one online with that control, the people are more likely to ah those mats.
What would be a great solution to this, and a great way to help both guild members get gold for their farming and the bank get what it needs, is set up a guild merchant. This merchant would buy based on quotas and prices set by someone in control of the bank. Guild master at least. Say the guild bank need 200 whiptail. The gm goes to the guild merchant tab, put in whiptail as the thing needed, and sets the quantity of 200, and the price per herb. When a guild member goes and talks to the guild merchant npc or whatever, they see whiptail with a 200 (or smaller number if some has already been vendored), they right click the whiptail in their bags, and get the set "vendor" price per herb, and the herbs go into the guild bank. On a side note, the opposite of this system would be extremely helpful as well. If there is something in the guild bank I want to sell to the guild members for a discounted price, I have to again, be online, get it from the bank, trade it, and bank the gold. Again, the guild merchant tab could have a spot where I put and item into the vendor's list of items, but this time as for sale, where any guild member could buy it for the price I set. What's really exciting about this idea is it fits all styles of guilds. Even a guild that wants to rely entirely on donations could use the buying tab as a way to show what they need (list the mats, items, etc they need with a vendor price of 0). (btw, my apologies if this topic is not in the correct forum. Seemed the best forum of my options) |
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That is a fantastic idea, we go through so many flasks, and basically my guild leader has to buy the herbs off the ah, so it would be fantastic if our members could just sell them to the gbank, so we keep all that money in the guild.
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the only problem is guild bank space. I am in a medium sized guild and already we have 6 tabs near full. I could sell the ore in my bank to the guild bank and fill up half a tab myself. So an addendum to your idea would be to make all mats have an unlimited stacking size while in guild bank.
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While this idea is neat, the only thing I do not see addressed is where this guild merchant's funding comes from. The guild merchant would almost function like an unlimited bank tab and would require a deposit and withdrawal function just like a bank tab.
The money the guild merchant pays should not come from the normal funding account as world npcs. The guild merchant's funding should come from the bank of the guild which would require it be connected to the guild or that the guild master deposits money in the guild npc's petty cash box.And the guild npc would need a line of code to check each seller for their guild AND keep seperated the many guilds that would be using this function. Rather than introduce this nifty idea which requires much coding and programming and swapping of funds, why not just set in your info tab on the guild bank or on your message of the day what you are looking for? And then write in the price and request a guildie C.O.D. mail it to you? This way there is a record of the transaction. You can always return the mail if you have enough and don't wish to pay for more. And as your guild levels, you will eventually get instant guild emailed items. It serves the same function as what you are proposing with only it is not immediate cash gratification to the guildie who mailed the mats. |
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I believe what he is saying is that when he sets the quota needed, it's first come first server. If you need 200 of X, the merchant will only buy 200 and no more.
I absolutely love this idea. Please post it on the suggestion forum. |
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Great idea. I want to promote buying and selling within the guild.
Not only would it help the guild and the guild members, it would create a sense of teamwork within the guild. People would feel they are helping the guild, and are also helped in return. |
Cool idea, I like it.
This can be horribly abused. For example, we give all of our guild members items from the gbank for half of the AH price. What's to stop a disgruntled guildie from going to the bank, buying what they can (epics, for example,) and then leaving the guild. They could then sell these for full AH price or something like that. Same could be said for hackers (we've all had guildies that have been hacked.) A hacker could buy everything in the gbank and not be limited by the withdrawal system put in place. |
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It's also called C.O.D. Have the members CoD the mats to you, they get cash as soon as you log in and you get to put it in the bank. Slam bam boom.
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It's really tedious. It wouldn't hurt to have a more elegant feature for it. |
There are numerous ways to negate this abuse. The most obvious would be to somehow throw guild rank into the mix. I believe adding a checkable option or two, such as the following, might help this along a bit: "Merchant Purchases" and "Merchant Sales" This would mean that, for instance, new members might be restricted only to selling needed materials while veteran members would be the only people capable of purchasing from the merchant vendor. As for the other complaints, I don't see how this could act as an "infinite bank"? If the bank fills, the sale of items to the guild bank cease. How is that infinite? |
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We recently had two high ranking guild members hacked and lost a significant portion of our guild bank. Having large stacks of mats was a huge problem as it made it easier for the hackers to deplete our bank. We've gone to a fairly strict policy about authenticators to prevent it from happening again. You could always have members mail items cod at a fair price to someone with the correct permissions, as someone has already mentioned. |
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I think the idea is to make less work for the players/bankers. By automating it, its easier for the seller, its easier for the buyer, and its instant. Especially if theres different time zones involved. Id actually like to take it a step further and have actual guild halls. Maybe have some portals for easier transportation. An auction hall vendor... what not. Oh, and theres another gold sink for blizzard too. Paying rent for the hall, paying any vendors, bankers, etc etc.
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This is a great idea! Here's hoping the right people hear it.
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