Topic Healers Have to Die, part III
Plenty
Ysondre
Plenty
2 Orc Hunter
0
Edited by Plenty on 3/13/11 8:06 AM (PDT)
Part II hit the post limit.

Just to reiterate what this addon can do, and the issues people have against it:

-this HHTD addon auto marks a healer as soon as they cast a healing spell

-allows you to set parameters to differentiate between the strength of a hybrid's heals and a true healer's heals.

-it lets you set a "healer forget" timer where it keeps the marker on a detected healer for as long as you want

-It makes a bell chime sound when you mouse over an auto-marked healer, regardless of how far away he is

-You can make it so it detects only players specced into healer trees.


The addon finds healers for you by putting a Hunter's Mark-like red plus sign on multiple targets near you based on what you've designated in the addon menu.

The above features take the grunt work out of simple situational awareness in pvp; it's all automated to seek out healers for you. It is my personal opinion that this addon is akin to the functions of the old AVR, which basically told you where to and where not to stand. Blizzard thought this addon ruined the experience they wanted players to have in ICC encounters, so they broke it.

As of now, the creator of HHTD is keeping a close eye on the discussion as well.

Healers Have To Die

Spot those bloody healers instantly and help them accomplish their destiny! (PVP and PVE)

HHTD adds a red cross over enemy healer's name plates. You can't miss them! (see the screen-shot).

HHTD adds a healer role symbol abovefriendly healers' name plates. Stop the slaughter!!

IMPORTANT NOTE: You have to enable name-plates, else you won't see the healer symbol!

It also rings when you hover or target a hostile unit who healed someone else during the last 60 seconds (can be configured).

HHTD is PVP and PVE compatible.

HHTD uses the combat log events to detect friendly and enemy healers. By default HHTD will detect specialized healers spells only (for PvP) another option lets you choose a specified amount of healing ennemies have to reach before being marked as healers. (this is the setting used for PVE)

Self-Heals and pets are filtered out.

Remember to check out available options (/HHTDG)

An interesting debate about this add-on is happening on the official Blizzard's forum: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2191131447 Sadly, as a European I cannot participate but I'm reading this thread with great interest.


Keep this topic going. I want to see if Blizzard can give an opinion on the subject. They did so for AVR, but we've yet to hear or see any actions from them for HHTD.
Leetninja
Burning Blade
Leetninja
1 Troll Druid
0
I don't PVP so I really don't care either way but you would have to be an idiot to believe that Blizzard will not break this addon.
Syncline
Cho'gall
Syncline
85 Blood Elf Priest
2260
Edited by Syncline on 3/13/11 8:37 AM (PDT)
It's been downloaded almost 50k times, from what I saw on the Curse site, actually.

I also find it funny that a rogue is sneering at us when she'd be QQing if there was an addon that tracked rogues, too. :)
Jungora
Moonrunner
Jungora
82 Orc Hunter
3085
This mod is so cheap... next thing we will have a mod auto target players and flashing interrupt this spell.
Syncline
Cho'gall
Syncline
85 Blood Elf Priest
2260
Edited by Syncline on 3/13/11 8:43 AM (PDT)
One of the upcoming features of the mod will be to not only automark, but to call out the target to the rest of the group.
Bandil
Cenarion Circle
Bandil
85 Night Elf Death Knight
3015
I tried using it at some point... I deleted it because it wasn't very helpful...
Phy
Terokkar
Phy
85 Tauren Death Knight
8330
03/13/2011 8:42 AMPosted by Syncline
One of the upcoming features of the mod will be to not only automark, but to call out the target to the rest of the group.

Sooo it does something a good team should already be able to do?
Felle
Blackwater Raiders
Felle
90 Human Warlock
11130
I went and checked healer must die out to see what the fuss is all about. I rarely pvp anymore (I used to often but being alliance...well you know the rest). I have to say I think it does give an unfair advantage. First thing I used to always do is scout out the bushes/water/buildings for those healers and send my minions after them, then start with my DOTs. There was a challenge there. Now? Anyone can see them immediately and focus on them. I can see why it wouldn't be fun anymore for the healers to always be targeted. And those poor shadow priests or elemental shammies (ect) who happen to toss a heal to help out...well now they're the ones always getting ganked.

I'm not the greatest pvp player, I have no problems admitting that. But I won't be using this addon to help me win. I don't believe it is fair, and it takes the challenge out of pvp. I'd like to win more but not at the expense of other people. And as you can see, I'm a warlock, not a class who can heal (even if I joke at times that I'll be a healer with my lock cookies). So at least there will be one dps who will be playing the game looking for the healers the way blizzard wanted it to be done. Unfortunately people will most likely keep using this for the very reasons I'm not using it. Because it makes things so much easier.
Lothor
Silver Hand
Lothor
85 Human Paladin
6660
Hmm when I looked at this thread I thought it was about the fact healers are OP. I then read the comments it's about an addon that tracks healers.....


That's... interesting. I wonder how they could do that /shrug


Wasn't there an addon that allowed you to track any incoming opposite faction member on your minimap?
Aualepa
Hellscream
Aualepa
85 Tauren Shaman
5970
This thing is still going on? Wow, fight the good fight my healing brethren. =)

It's a shame, I was even going to craft myself a pvp set and try it out this expansion. Guess I'll have to find something else to do with all that leather - I'm not stepping foot in a BG with any of my healing toons until this mess is fixed.
Marcusx
Drak'thul
Marcusx
85 Blood Elf Paladin
2785
This topic is old news...Nothing to see here move along....

If your a good healer in a good group then you should have nothing to worry about. I myself heal and have had no problems since this addon has came out. Nothings changed.
Xort
Kargath
Xort
85 Troll Mage
12360
All mods are designed to give the player an advantage. You want a fair playing field then make it so all mods and macros are disabled in battlegrounds. Now that would make things interesting.
Syncline
Cho'gall
Syncline
85 Blood Elf Priest
2260
This thing is still going on? Wow, fight the good fight my healing brethren. =)

It's a shame, I was even going to craft myself a pvp set and try it out this expansion. Guess I'll have to find something else to do with all that leather - I'm not stepping foot in a BG with any of my healing toons until this mess is fixed.
I've been doing them anyway, but ouch sometimes when a group has multiples using this mod.
Dregolas
Gurubashi
Dregolas
90 Blood Elf Paladin
7785
03/13/2011 8:50 AMPosted by Lothor
That's... interesting. I wonder how they could do that /shrug


From what I understand, it scans the combat log for certain spells healers would be using.



03/13/2011 8:50 AMPosted by Lothor
Wasn't there an addon that allowed you to track any incoming opposite faction member on your minimap?


well, you can do that by eating blackened worg steaks. Shows humanoids on the minimap.

The addons I've used only show nearby enemy player names in a window, with their approximate coordinates.
Frostyyz
Zangarmarsh
Frostyyz
27 Gnome Mage
230
All this post did was make me download it and tell my guild about it, which gave it another 10 or so downloads.
Moux
Twisting Nether
Moux
85 Tauren Shaman
6310
Healers should now be targetted for spamming this crap post instead of them being healers.
Greydius
Kirin Tor
Greydius
85 Human Death Knight
3745
This topic is old news...Nothing to see here move along....

If your a good healer in a good group then you should have nothing to worry about. I myself heal and have had no problems since this addon has came out. Nothings changed.


I'm going to have to agree. I've noticed absolutely no change in my healers being focused upon.

I feel like a lot of you are exaggerating. A lot.

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