HUGE Framerate problems after 4.1

90 Pandaren Mage
2850
Ok here are somethings to check for to see what may be causing low FPS. I do have to eliminate these as possibilities.

This is ensuring that you've already done the following:
    -Deleted/Moved your WTF, Cache and Interface folder outside of the WoW folder.
    -Lowered your Shadows/Liquids/View Distance to Low.
    -Disabled Sunshafts
    -Multisampling is set to 1x

Additional things to try:
    -Make sure your add-ons are uninstalled (I have to make sure, as I stated before disabling add-ons is not the same as removing them)

    -Ran a repair from the Repair Tool inside the WoW folder.

    -Try Capping your FPS in game to see if's a heating issue.
      /console maxfps X
      X can equal any number. I would say 30 for the first test and then 45. I would limit the test to 60. Nothing over 60 is really recommended, specially for portables. This keeps your GPU from overheating and provides smoother framerate in most cases.

    -Do a SMC reset to ensure voltage is proper to the GPU.
      Resetting the SMC
        [url]http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964[/url]

    -Ensure you OS X is up to date by running Software Updates.
      We recently changed the requirements, for our games, ensuring that the most recent OS version (like 10.5.8/10.6.7) is the required version.

    -After your OS X is up to date, try running Repair permissions and Repair Disk for general maintenance:

    Please use the steps below to repair file permission settings on the hard drive.
      1. Navigate to /Applications/Utilities/ and open Disk Utility
      2. Select the hard drive the game is installed on
      3. Select the First Aid option
      4. Click on the Repair Disk Permissions button

    Repair Directory Procedure:
      1. Start from your Mac OS X Install disc: Insert the installation disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
      2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
      Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.
      3. Click the First Aid tab.
      4. Click the disclosure triangle to the left of the hard drive icon to display the names of your hard disk volumes and partitions.
      5. Select your Mac OS X volume.
      6. Click Repair. Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk.
      **Always start up your computer from an Install or Restore disc when using Disk Utility to verify or repair your startup volume. Otherwise, you might see some disk error messages.**

    -Disabled Time Machine

    -Run Activity Monitor (Applications/Utilities) and make sure nothing else is running with WoW open (no chat apps, or games like Chess, etc).

    -Make sure you have 10GB of free HDD space. This helps your Mac run smoother overall.

    -If you don't have 4GB of RAM, try upgrading. This is in our recommended specs. The game evolves, so this is optimal for better performance.

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Did all of those things and my gameplay is OK now. Don't know what it was specifically but I don't care! I just love that I can play normally again.
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85 Human Priest
5980
I turn down water quality, turn UP multisampling to 4x from 1x, and my FPS tanks from 100 to 10, but its NOT just FPS. the plants in zg become distorted (long and smudged) and form a web which fills the screen and makes it hard to see when multisample is active, among other things.

tried all the above, none of it helped.. this is utter BS, before the patch i ran 60 fps in the middle of stormwind with 8x multi and ultra settings.

radeon hd 6750M 1 gig vram, standard out-of-box 17" macbook pro, as is sold today on apple store.
Edited by Rekinee on 6/3/2011 12:06 AM PDT
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06/02/2011 09:12 PMPosted by Rekinee
I turn down water quality, turn UP multisampling to 4x from 1x


You mean turning up from 1x to 4x? 4x to 1x is turning down and should fix FPS problems. As mentioned before, there are some overall issues with multisampling on AMD/ATI cards, so 1x is best suited. If you having display issues when 1x, then that might indicate something else. Have you disabled automatic graphic switching? Please create a new thread topic for the graphic distortion as we want to keep this focused on FPS issues.
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85 Worgen Warlock
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1. Navigate to /Applications/World of Warcraft/
2. Delete the Cache folder.
3. Move Interface and WTF to the Desktop.
4. Go into /Applications/World of Warcraft/Data and delete the Cache folder.
5. Launch WoW.
6. When it completes the "Applying non-critical updates", click Play and log in.



I did this and now my macros and keybindings are gone.

This made me VERY angry.
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90 Night Elf Druid
5390
Keybinds and Macros should be saved server side.

Plus I do not believe anyone suggested deleting the Data/Cache folder is something you do for FPS issues.
Edited by Kayinn on 6/5/2011 12:53 PM PDT
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85 Worgen Warlock
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06/05/2011 12:52 PMPosted by Kayinn
Keybinds and Macros should be saved server side.


That's what I thought but (I have my primary flying mount bound to Alt+N) but when I press "N" talents come up.

What. the. Forsaken!

Seriously WHAT is going on????
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85 Worgen Warlock
9445
**Note: This is all one process. No need to test WoW after resetting the permissions.

Reset the permissions on your WoW folder:
1. Select the World of Warcraft folder
2. Press Command + I
3. In the World of Warcraft Info box, go to the Sharing & Permissions section
4. Click on the lock and unlock it, entering your admin password when prompted.
5. make sure you have Read & Write permissions
6. Click on the Burst icon (cog wheel) and select Apply to enclosed items

Reset the temp files:
1. Navigate to /Applications/World of Warcraft/
2. Delete the Cache folder.
3. Move Interface and WTF to the Desktop.
4. Go into /Applications/World of Warcraft/Data and delete the Cache folder.
5. Launch WoW.
6. When it completes the "Applying non-critical updates", click Play and log in.

If it improves, you can add your addons back in a couple at a time. If you determine a specific addon is causing the issues, please, let us know.

Also, let the addon publisher know, too, so they can update their code.
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I followed this, dude, Blue said 4. Go into /Applications/World of Warcraft/Data and delete the Cache folder.
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90 Night Elf Druid
5390
Create a new thread then, this has nothing to do with low FPS now, this is about your macros.
Edited by Kayinn on 6/5/2011 12:55 PM PDT
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85 Worgen Warlock
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06/05/2011 12:55 PMPosted by Kayinn
Create a new thread then, this has nothing to do with low FPS now, this is about your macros.


I don't feel you're being very helpful.
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90 Night Elf Druid
5390
Sorry don't mean to come off like that, but this thread is about attemping to troubleshoot FPS issue. Adding additional stuff about your macros not working after it and etc, kinda derails the thread, and it loses it purposes. Creating a new thread is the better way of getting help. You don't want to clutter things up and get people confused. People do forum search and google searches and often post in the wrong forums due to mixed information.
Edited by Kayinn on 6/5/2011 1:01 PM PDT
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06/05/2011 12:43 PMPosted by Moonlight
I did this and now my macros and keybindings are gone.


And if you followed the instructions you'll note you were asked to MOVE the Wtf folder to the desktop not delete it.

So there should be a WTF folder on the desktop you can just move the macros files back.

Posting this here to clear things up as I've already answered you in the thread you created after this.
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90 Dwarf Shaman
6500
I tried these things, but it didn't help. Funny thing is that it started just a couple of days ago. Before that my FPS was fine.

I'm using Mid 2010 MacBook Pro on 24" LED Display.
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90 Worgen Hunter
8465
I am really struggling with this low framerate problem. I have a 2.13 MHz 4MB Ram MacBook Air on which I have been running WoW for about a year with absolutely no problems. In fact, I have been incredibly impressed with how well WoW has run. Today I had to reinstall OS X 10.6 to take care of some printer issues and BAM, framerate at 6. Yes 6. I have tried all the recommendations--turning down settings, emptying cache, deleting add ons, reset PRAM and that other one. I've checked permissions, verified the WoW software. All of it. Nothing moves me off of 6 FPS. I am stumped. How can none of these make any difference at all? Please help me brainstorm more things to try. I am so frustrated! I'm about to back everything up and do a clean reinstall of everything. It's all I have left to try.
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100 Human Warrior
19610
sounds like you probably had a bad install, or didn't follow clean install instructions and have leftover software from 10.5 that's not compiatoble with 10.6 consuming up cpu, you have to identify source with activity monitor, console log to determine the problme
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90 Worgen Hunter
8465
Ok, so I've spent hours and hours today trying to correct the low fps issue (see my prior post). I completely wiped my macbook air and reinstalled os 10.6. I redownloaded WoW from BattleNet. Everything is super clean. To my horror: 5 fps. It's like WoW is locking the whole machine up. I am in windowed mode and I can't even load a browser window in Safari in the background. Activity monitor shows WoW as using 40% of the CPU and about 876MB Real Mem, does this sound about right? Is there any additional info I can send you to help me diagnose this? The game is unplayable.

Latency 25 (home) 16 (world). Bandwidth 189Mbps.

Windowed mode, 1x Multisampling, Vertical Sync Disabled, Graphics Good, Texture Resolution Good, Texture Filtering 2x Anisotropic, Projected Textures Enabled, Shadow Quality Good, Liquid Detail Good, Sunshafts Disabled, Particle Density Fair, View Distance Good, Environment Detail Good, Ground Clutter Fair.

MacBook Air 2.13 GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB 1067 MHz DDR3, NVIDIA GeForce 320M w/ 256MB VRam, 184 GB free HardDisk space.

Like I said, this machine was gaming and raiding excellently just last week. What the heck is up?
Edited by Lanine on 6/14/2011 6:35 PM PDT
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85 Dwarf Hunter
6090
Macbook Pro 15''
2.66 GHz i7
4 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M with 512 MB
OS X 10.6.7 with all updates
Using no addons.

Like 3 days ago my FPS dropped from 30-100 FPS to 7-14 FPS (running standard "fair settings" without vertical sync). I tried all the steps you suggested and after next game start my FPS was back to old numbers. However after like 1 minute in game it dropped again to 7-14 FPS. Restarted Mac, started WoW, FPS were good for like 3 mins (joined BG and then...) and then fall to 15 FPS again.

All other games I have work without problem (Starcraft 2, Dragon Age, games under Steam etc.)

UPDATE:

I did all the cleaning again, I also setup 45 FPS as max FPS. I turned water "reflections" off. Now it works okayish. So this leads me to believe it might be overheating issue?
Edited by Semris on 6/16/2011 1:28 AM PDT
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When you stated you did all the steps, was it the ones listed in these two post:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2416117439?page=5#94

This should include the SMC also. If you overheated, then it's always a good idea to do that.


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70 Gnome Rogue
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Recount seems to be causing my screen to freeze whenever there is combat in the loaded area, I use Windows, if this helps in anyway.
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06/17/2011 04:22 PMPosted by Erayan
Recount seems to be causing my screen to freeze whenever there is combat in the loaded area, I use Windows, if this helps in anyway.


That may be a different issue. This forum/thread is for Mac users. As S4d1k mentioned in the linked I provided, if you are a Windows user, post in the normal tech forums, since causes may vary from OS to OS, and solutions here may not be windows friendly.
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