Survival PVE Guide (4.1)

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100 Goblin Shaman
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Sticky requested :). They FINALLY added the option.
Edited by Jujubiju on 5/7/2011 8:46 AM PDT
90 Goblin Hunter
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How many times do I have to request for a sticky?
23 Dwarf Priest
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voted "Thumbs Up" on all posts and requested for sticky. Great Guide once again!
90 Dwarf Hunter
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Oh yes, I sometimes give our tank entrapment for the aberrations, but not on the black phase. Although I'm considering switching to MM for heroic Maloriak for the extra burst AoE from rapid fire.


We ended up getting heroic Mal down tonight. I did end up switching to MM for the fight. I think with the changes MM is better than SV on this fight for 3 reasons:
1) Since the black phase adds are kited a lot, explosive trap can't really get the full value
2) Threat is tight on the black phase at the start, having readiness allows for 2 MDs which makes things a lot smoother
3) Having 2 rapid fires with the extra focus regen on that fight makes a huge difference in burst on the adds.

I'm not sure if my AoE damage was any better than SV, but it certainly wasn't noticably worse, and combined with the extra MD we had much better control on the adds.

That being said, if your group needs the haste buff, SV is obviously better, but if you tend to swap between specs and use SV for AoE fights, this is one AoE fight where MM may make more sense.
Edited by Zeherah on 5/8/2011 6:47 PM PDT
85 Worgen Hunter
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I do have a quick trinket question: Fluid Death vs. the DMC? Since the update in 4.1 is the DMC a better choice, with the way Mastery scales with the proc. Exclusive of the hit you get from the trinket, a consrant 321 agility vs. the build up to 380 agility (it does drop off if you sitch targets)? I have run the 2 through Female Dwarf, but was looking more for real world experience from the members of the hunter community.
90 Pandaren Hunter
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05/09/2011 04:54 AMPosted by Alindal
I do have a quick trinket question: Fluid Death vs. the DMC? Since the update in 4.1 is the DMC a better choice, with the way Mastery scales with the proc. Exclusive of the hit you get from the trinket, a consrant 321 agility vs. the build up to 380 agility (it does drop off if you sitch targets)? I have run the 2 through Female Dwarf, but was looking more for real world experience from the members of the hunter community.


Assuming that Fluid Death operates in the same manner that Tia's Grace works, and all indications on Wowhead point to that conclusion. Switching targets does not cause this buff to drop off. The buff (http://www.wowhead.com/spell=92104) will only fall off if you do not attack anything for 15 seconds.

If you want to compare Agility only, then you would have to take Fluid Death over the DMC. The ramp up to 380 Agility is less than 10 seconds, and is active throughout an entire fight.

The question should be stated, is the 59 Agility from Fluid Death worth more or less than the extra proc damage from the Darkmoon Card? FD should give fairly accurate results on this question.

I would imagine Fluid Death would be better if you cannot find enough Hit on your gear and DMC would be better if you have sufficient Hit from gear.
90 Goblin Hunter
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05/08/2011 06:17 AMPosted by Aerrin
Giving my daily sticky request and bump.
85 Blood Elf Hunter
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stickie it please... bump
90 Draenei Hunter
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Adding another bump and another sticky request. The hunter forums need more things like this.
90 Goblin Hunter
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What ^ said.
85 Human Hunter
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Requested a sticky to help my fellow hunters out :)
90 Night Elf Druid
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Stealth bumping on mah drood (they'll never know!)
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