How about putting the key ring button on the back pack? Under the name plate?
How about combining the new Dungeon Journal with the Quest Log? You can then add any quests notes that are relevant to the dungeon bosses.
Without the keys you've removed the Lore and exploration needed to unlock dungeons - or heroic modes of dungeons. Heck, even finding the entrances of dungeon sites was deemed too onerous for folks. Since there's real reason to quest or anything now, why not just remove the continents? There's barely anyone out there now anyways.
I agree. I leveled an alt from 20 to 75 by standing around in the Dwarven District in SW, trading on AH and buying spells from my trainer. With the bots selling cheap mats, it's cheaper to level a profession in AH than to go out gather the mats. With Dungeon Finder, I don't need to go anywhere.
I would like to, but it seems pointless -- there's no one to run into, there's no random pvp, there are no group quests, there are no quests required to get your abilities or enter heroics... I even miss being ganked in Ashenvale on my first toon now.
So, just as a reference here are the keys we're currently seeing as ones that will not be converted to gold or removed upon release of the patch -- if you have them they'd be put back into your normal inventory.
Any Blacksmith keys (e.g. Titanium Skeleton Key)
If this is the case, can we do both of these changes at the same time? I'd really like to free up bag space, not lose it.
Not a big deal.... Keys are gone! Wow, absolutely nothing has changed. I will continue as I always have!
Keys were the only thing I collected through Wrath. Some people collected pets. Others collected mounts. I collected keys, and could boast owning every single instance-related key in the game, with one major exception: the 25-man Algalon key. I was working on getting a group set up for it when Cata brought the end of most instance keys.
Now the last remnants of my collection are set to disappear as well. I know things change and the game moves forward, but I will miss my collection and regret the fact that I never got the chance to complete it.
Perhaps I shall hash through the 25-man Ulduar hard modes to finally complete my 25-man Celestial Planetarium key while the quests still exist. Maybe it will bring closure.
Farewell, key chain.
Relic Coffer Key (Blackfathom Deeps)
You are ignoring the fact that each key has to be stored on server space. It is not just a matter of the tiny space that you see in your UI. Multiply the dozen or so keys that you have by the millions of players with keys and you are looking at substantial storage utilization.This is what they are referring to.
I'm annoyed tbh at the removal of all the keys. It dumbs down the game, and it makes all the questlines involved in getting said keys redundant. I mean the master's key for Kara is a great questline to do.
So is the questline for the key to algalon's chamber... despite the fact you can zoom through them now it's a nice immersive feature.
I'm also irritated that the last relic of an epic quest chain will be vanishing on 4.2. I worked hard for my moonstone to summon Anzu, and no I don't care that it can be triggered without it. I like having the moonstone as proof I did the chain, the feat is all well and good, but I liked having the flavour item that was the reward.
Is there even a purpose to this change, other than *maybe* we'll add more cool features in the future?
I do see the reason for the change. The default UI is very overcrowded. Since keys are mostly obsolete(heroics/maly/Ulduar) those few that are useful as actual items(Kara/ Essence-Infused Moonstone/MT-Hkey) can easily be gotten rid of. The only real problem is with quest keys, BS keys and those like Scarab coffer keys/consortium rep. And while this will be an annoyance for some people, blizz feels like making things simpler for the majority is the way to go.
It would have gone easier with people if they said that all the keys would no longer be needed, instead of putting the few useful keys in the players bags.
05/23/2011 04:09 PMPosted by DrianiActually, they amount to a 0 or a 1 in a single record in a massive database, nothing more really.
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