Winning? Who cares? Generaly speaking I run around the field of strife 90% of the time looking for a fight. Why? In hopes that me not being of offense might lead to a turtle. I don't care one way or the other who wins anymore I just want turtles when I go in so I might actualy be able to fight another player. I'd say 80% of AV's are over in 10 mins and required little to no PvP. It's not fun, there is no player interaction unless you count 30 people crying about how someone capped IBGY interaction. And on top of it you rarely have to fight the opposing team to become "vitorious".
Fun AV's were anywhere from 2 hours to 3 days long, those have long gone. I haven't seen druids summoned since BC. The entire point of the battle ground has been lost. There is no real victory in AV anymore, just a race to see who can get the most honor so they can get thier next upgrade faster. Or if it's late at night, a race to see which team has the least amount of botters haning out in thier starting area.
There is no "Victory" in AV.
Basically what this guy said. It's very sad... As well as stated in earlier posts; AV is a mere shadow of its former being... Stated earlier: Since you guys are going to hopefully read these, or most of them - granted your purpose is to get actual answers - please drop reinforcements.
It isn't 'Alterac Valley' anymore. There is rarely ever actually any PvP involved. At all. It's all just defend the towers and kill your opposing faction's NPCs. Those of us who are saying 'OOH AV SUCKS CHANGE IT BACK' like among other things, it isn't because "it's how it used to be, back in the glory days..." it's literally because it was just flat out better
. It was actual PvP and it was a tough battleground; it was FUN! That's the main thing you guys want for us, right? The fun of it? AV was that infamous battleground that you joined expecting an epic battle in the field of strife with Korrak, or a Snowfall turtle defense - or whatever.
I think the big part that irks myself and as well as a lot of other players, is that because it isn't PvP anymore, just defend/attack towers and kill opposing NPCs, is that it's just an honor grind. Nothing more than simply to get some honor to get some new piece of shiny loot or however one tends to spend their honor points - that's it. I mean, what's the 'fun' in that? Buying that piece of gear? I always thought the main portion of the amusement came from the adventure to GET
the item, not simply the obtainment of said item. Somehow that doesn't seem to make sense.
It's just a plea from a very large portion, at least to my belief, of your playerbase that you drop the Reinforcements deal and bring back all the patrolling NPC's and such. Make it difficult and fun again. I can almost guarentee it would be one of the better decisions ever made... I don't mean this to be something that's entirely blamed on you guys, being the devs and such (well, for here probably just the forum moderators >_>). I just want to once again PvP
in a large scale battleground.
Thanks for reading this annoying wall of text, and I apologize. I hope others will agree and I hope, some day, that it will be at least be acknowledged and we will be given some type of answer as to your plans about this BG. =/