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85 Troll Druid
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06/06/2011 06:19 PMPosted by Darknessclaw
Stupid question but how do we know if we can use Ipv6?


If you’d like to know how to get started, or would like more information on what it’s all about, check out our IPv6 page: http://ipv6.blizzard.com/ and FAQ: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&tag=ipv6day


I believe all your answers are on these pages.
100 Human Mage
16915
I understand why blizzard has decided to not recognise the tunnelers and psuedo IPv6 addresses during the tests, but i hope in time they can implement their servers to recognise these protocols as im sure a lot of people in the public and business sector will want to take the easy way out in the shorter term.

Having a clear pure IPv6 service across the net will be a great help for the long term, but in my opinion it will slow down the process of conversion to widely used IPv6


Not trying the auto-tunneling protocols is probably the best course. They can be handy, but they can also be almost impossible to debug. 6to4 works by trying to send final v6 destinations to the closest instance of 192.88.99.1, and traffic from v6 goes back to the nearest instance of 2002:/16. Teredo jumps through a ton of hoops to try and get around NATs, then tries to discover relays. If every ISP ran 6to4 and Teredo relays, this might be workable, as the traffic would have a pretty deterministic path, but they don't, and have to go through random networks and commonly suboptimal paths to get there. As such, trying to support it from Blizzard's side would be a nightmare. Network operators aren't fans of them, as they're yet another stopgap measure when people just need to GO NATIVE. The only true solution is native. In the meantime, configured tunnels (which WoW is supposed to be happy with) are at least able to be troubleshot in a reasonable manner, since where everything is going and coming from is pretty easy to nail down. There's also no element of user surprise, since someone had to set the tunnel up.

Realistically, we'll see dual-stacked networks for a while. The pain will begin when sites start going only IPv6, and then we'll start seeing 4to6 relays... with all the fun of the above, all over again.
guess I should enable the IPv6 portion of my router
been lazy, as IPv6 is still in the barely supported category

06/06/2011 04:13 PMPosted by Regnatia
Too bad that my University campus hasn't announced anything about that day yet. You'd think that universities would jump ahead at the testing and implementation of new protocols, being institutions of progress and research.

you can look up if your university is 'officially' supporting the test here
http://www.worldipv6day.org/participants/index.html
that is not saying they arn't supporting it if not listed, just they are or are not backing the official test
90 Human Paladin
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Is comcast enabling IPv6 for subscribers tomorrow? I can't quite get what they're saying on their IPv6 website.
85 Worgen Druid
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06/07/2011 03:55 AMPosted by Nieriel
Is comcast enabling IPv6 for subscribers tomorrow? I can't quite get what they're saying on their IPv6 website.


San Francisco, CA, Philadelphia, PA, Miramar, FL, and Chicago, IL.

You also need certain modem and router equipment to make it work.
85 Worgen Druid
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@Blizzard

Stop breaking RFC for faux "security" reasons please.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4890#section-4.3.1
Edited by Ako on 6/7/2011 4:23 AM PDT
1 Blood Elf Warlock
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Seems it's already working, right now :)
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90 Human Priest
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Would have been nice to have Ner'zhul on that list. It'd give me incentive to tryout IPv6 and learn its structure setup in my OSes. Oh well. ^_^
85 Worgen Druid
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@Tiapriestess

It's still a good idea to play with IPv6 as it's coming--and fast. A couple of large hosting providers have turned it up, the transit networks are going up. The changes made to WoW affect not only just Blizzard but also other AT&T customers in the datacenters where they turned up IPv6 connectivity.

All of my hosted sites and my home LAN are dual stack (IPv4 and IPv6).
85 Worgen Druid
7385
06/07/2011 07:19 AMPosted by Angelatore
does involve research to ensure each component of your internet connection supports IPv6, as well as editing a game file with a text editor.


Why on earth, after jamming the ToS down my throat for six years, are you now encouraging me and almost requiring me to break the ToS?


Editing the .WTF configuration files is not breaking the TOS.
30 Troll Druid
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IPv6 already running on the realms listed :P my latency bit higher(world) but I noticed my home roughly half the latency of world latency still cool it working even though using tunnel broker (HE)
90 Worgen Warrior
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06/07/2011 07:19 AMPosted by Angelatore
does involve research to ensure each component of your internet connection supports IPv6, as well as editing a game file with a text editor.


Why on earth, after jamming the ToS down my throat for six years, are you now encouraging me and almost requiring me to break the ToS?


As said above. Only editing files in the DATA folder break the ToS.
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100 Draenei Mage
6930
06/07/2011 07:19 AMPosted by Angelatore
Why on earth, after jamming the ToS down my throat for six years, are you now encouraging me and almost requiring me to break the ToS?


And if you read your Terms of Use / EULA you will see there's leeway there say if it's authorized by Blizzard it's ok :

From the Terms of Use :

You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:

D. modify or cause to be modified any files that are a part of the Game Client or the Service in any way not expressly authorized by Blizzard;


From the EULA :

You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:

E. modify or cause to be modified any files that are a part of the Game Client in any way not expressly authorized by Blizzard;


Notice how both have "in a way not expressly authorized by Blizzard". It means that if Blizzard expressly authorizes it it's allowed (misunderstandings from GMs aside)

This is why any Blue poster on the forums has to be very damn careful what they're advising people to do.
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85 Blood Elf Mage
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I wish I could take part in IPv6 Day, as my realm is on the list. That realm being Garrosh, except my ISP is not compatible with IPv6 at this time.

I do hope my ISP will enable IPv6 in the future though, as I would love to test this new feature out. For now though, I'm stuck using IPv4 for the time being.

Glad to see Blizzard is going to test this on the realms though. Even though it is select realms. =P
86 Worgen Druid
9580
06/06/2011 07:32 PMPosted by Bumack
Stupid question but how do we know if we can use Ipv6?


If you’d like to know how to get started, or would like more information on what it’s all about, check out our IPv6 page: http://ipv6.blizzard.com/ and FAQ: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&tag=ipv6day


I believe all your answers are on these pages.


I meant how do we know if our internet provider gives Ipv6?
85 Troll Druid
4190
06/07/2011 01:22 PMPosted by Darknessclaw
I meant how do we know if our internet provider gives Ipv6?


Still on http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&tag=ipv6day :
Q: How do I enable IPv6 on my operating system?
A: Steps to utilize IPv6 are different for each Operating System.
Windows XP Steps
Windows Vista & 7 Steps
Mac OS X 10.6 Steps

Q: How do I check if I have a valid IPv6 address?
A: Any addresses starting with "::", "fc", "fd", or "fe" are unable to work with the public IPv6 internet.

For additional information, you can test your IPv6 connectivity here: http://test-ipv6.com/

Q: My computer doesn't have an IPv6 address, even though it's enabled on my operating system. What should I do?
A: This probably means that your ISP doesn't support IPv6 yet. Some providers are offering experimental IPv6 connectivity for customers who ask for it. Please contact your ISP for more details about the availability of IPv6. Alternatively, you may use an IPv6 tunnel broker in order to obtain an IPv6 address.


You probably want to 1) enable IPv6 on your computer following steps in the first Q/A, 2) just go on http://test-ipv6.com/ and see if you have an IPv6 address, and 3) if you don't, ask your ISP directly.
100 Night Elf Rogue
18145
06/06/2011 04:14 PMPosted by Taiki
Quel'dorei, for real? Ugh, I figured when I transferred from that desolate backwater server to Stormrage we'd get more opportunities like this. There are probably 3 people there, that even know what IPv6 is.. /endrant


That's probably exactly why. Better to test with low pop realms in case something goes horribly wrong and the realm dies.
90 Night Elf Druid
6900
06/07/2011 04:41 PMPosted by Azreluna
Quel'dorei, for real? Ugh, I figured when I transferred from that desolate backwater server to Stormrage we'd get more opportunities like this. There are probably 3 people there, that even know what IPv6 is.. /endrant


That's probably exactly why. Better to test with low pop realms in case something goes horribly wrong and the realm dies.

All of the servers in the list are in the Phoenix datacenter. http://www.wowpedia.org/US_realm_list_by_datacenter#Phoenix_Datacenter
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