06/21/2011 09:28 PMYou know, it's hard to read all this and think anything other "maybe it's because the mentality of the kind of person who plays a rogue is such that EVERYTHING is broken and they're ALWAYS miserable, so they just quit."
Posted by Ithtwil
it's always a bad idea to make assumptions about an entire population. It's impossible for every rogue to be a whiny crybaby, its much more likely that there are some serious issues with the class that make in unenjoyable.
Rogues can wreck the %!#! out of almost anything in 1v1
Defeat? maybe, but even then a good player of almost any class stands a good chance. Wreck? no. Warriors wreck. Death Knights wreck. When a rogue defeats an enemy, it generally takes longer, requires more precision, and almost always takes a major cooldown.
and the things they can't just destroy has absolutely 0 chance of killing them if the rogue REALLY wants to survive.
In a 1v1 situation with all cooldowns present, yes. but so much as a ranged class with a dot on a rogue without cloak, and there is no surviving if they really want to kill you.
Now some of you are going to say I don't know wtf I'm talking about, but the funny thing is, the ones that protest the most, in their deepest heart, know goddamned well what I'm talking about, and they know I'm right.
You don't know what you're talking about. Writing off all rogue concerns as being player mentality just because you saw some good rogues in action proves how little you know.
Rogues do VERY good dps.
Few people are complaining about our damage so much as how that damage is done(passive vs active) how it looks/feels to deal that damage(small numbers vs big numbers, combo points/target switching, non transferable debuffs, no flashy moves etc) and the fact that dealing good damage in a world where everyone is designed to do good damage leads to "So what else can you do?"
And even when rogues were hard core #1, they STILL weren't happy.
Would you be happy if you could be the best at something, but doing so only required you to hit a button every 7 seconds or so? Rogues don't want 'to be the best' so much as to have a lively and involved rotation that MATTERS.
Rogues are fine. I have one, I enjoy playing on it. I have a warrior, I enjoy that, a pally, a druid, a shammy, pretty much everything this game offers, and I enjoy each their own way.
I have all of those too, and i enjoy my rogue, but that doesn't stop me from realizing the limitations(not just role related) present on this character when compared to my paladin, warrior, or druid. That doesn't stop me from noticing how some concepts are outdated, poorly designed, clearly inferior. It doesnt stop me from seeing how other classes have actually evolved, both in terms of playstyle and beyond traditional weaknesses, something rogues have barely done.
Rogues are absolutely fine. Absolutely fine.They are competitive in pve, they are competitive in pvp. They are no more boring than any other class, they are no more complex than any other class, they are fine.
Completely your opinion. as I mentioned before, being competitive does not make a class interesting. and nobody wants to play a boring class.
Get over yourselves, and play your class, and enjoy it, or pick something else.
That would be why most of us have alts.