Topic Ask The Devs #10 - Damage Dealing (Answers)
Azidahaka
Emerald Dream
Azidahaka
85 Troll Hunter
Nyx
5885
This is getting friggin ridiculous. The developers NEED to respond to the hunter community. This is such I actually have no words anymore.

Everyone has problems, we hunters understand. But NONE of the hunter concerns were addressed and we continue to get ignored. YES this is the exact definition of Ignored. We are talking to a wall now on these Forums.
Bloodbliss
Llane
Bloodbliss
90 Night Elf Hunter
7935
06/24/2011 09:07 AMPosted by Nayaga
Is this all that is being answered?


http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2721582859
Umyea
Demon Soul
Umyea
85 Troll Shaman
3410
REALLY? you start out with four questions pertaining to shamans. Three of them are directly about enhancement, and the other one is about a totem.

You answer 3 questions directly about enhancement shamans, when elemental is the broken spec, and is the one that needs work.

Enhancement is FINE, we need to know what is going on with elemental.
Arielle
Suramar
Arielle
90 Night Elf Druid
CFT
10505
Edited by Arielle on 6/24/11 9:52 AM (PDT)
06/24/2011 09:48 AMPosted by Morphgazum
I want them to justify the 4.2 Boomkin nerf.

The one that doesn't really do anything since you'll just not take Lunar Shower and/or use a /cancelaura Macro?

Oh yeah, that one.

Edit: Unless you're talking about PvP.
Ernkilla
Rexxar
Ernkilla
90 Blood Elf Paladin
11670
Sorry blizzard just expressing my opinion here but that was the most pathetic ask the devs I have ever seen. This topic had such immense potential and what it ended up bieng was a waste of 15mins for me.
Lovefool
Alterac Mountains
Lovefool
85 Orc Shaman
8350
REALLY? you start out with four questions pertaining to shamans. Three of them are directly about enhancement, and the other one is about a totem.

You answer 3 questions directly about enhancement shamans, when elemental is the broken spec, and is the one that needs work.

Enhancement is FINE, we need to know what is going on with elemental.


I would've loved to see elemental stuff...
Sacredthorn
Wildhammer
Sacredthorn
85 Troll Hunter
7750
That's it?!
Nearly 25 pages of shaman questions and that's all they answered?


Once again Blizzard is showing no love or thought toward us, just answer a couple of questions with some cop out answers and then stop.


At least you got some questions answered, unlike the entire Hunter community -_-.
Exzavier
Dunemaul
Exzavier
85 Worgen Hunter
9875
The number of people who play DPS is several times greater than those who play tanks or healers. The damage dealing AtD filled up extremely quickly, and there were a lot of well-written questions. Taking all of that into account, what is the result?

Only a small amount of questions were answered, you'd think the amount of answers would be proportional to the amount of DPS players vs the amount of tanks/healers, but apparently that is not the case.

I'm happy that they at least addressed some Enhancement concerns, you guys have had it rough since the beginning. However, they just flat out ignored Hunters, Warlocks, and several other classes, in addition to ignoring something that concerns all dps: the current state of melee vs ranged.

Blizzard, this is unacceptable.
Pugnabo
Argent Dawn
Pugnabo
85 Orc Shaman
4430
REALLY? you start out with four questions pertaining to shamans. Three of them are directly about enhancement, and the other one is about a totem.

You answer 3 questions directly about enhancement shamans, when elemental is the broken spec, and is the one that needs work.

Enhancement is FINE, we need to know what is going on with elemental.


No need for infighting, Ele is bad, Enhance is bad. If we want to get anything changed we cannot squabble amongst ourselves regarding which spec needs it more, when our entire class' DPS is awful.
Pugnabo
Argent Dawn
Pugnabo
85 Orc Shaman
4430
That's it?!
Nearly 25 pages of shaman questions and that's all they answered?


Once again Blizzard is showing no love or thought toward us, just answer a couple of questions with some cop out answers and then stop.


At least you got some questions answered, unlike the entire Hunter community -_-.


Define "answered." Again, most heartfelt concerns to the Hunter community, but we are in the same boat as you in regards to PvP. It's either resto or nothing, which is sad. No definite answer regarding anything IMO.
Halkalla
Kirin Tor
Halkalla
85 Orc Shaman
11795
Edited by Halkalla on 6/24/11 9:58 AM (PDT)
Top 3 issues for enhance...

AOE
Scaling
Absorbs

How on earth do you miss all three

I mean really, you even touched on MW but left out the absorb problem? I was hoping you would address all of them, but I never thought you would completely miss them all.
Diranux
Doomhammer
Diranux
90 Pandaren Hunter
13935
Wish they could've talked about how they were going to fix shaman AOE
Kiava
Mannoroth
Kiava
90 Draenei Shaman
12875


It stands to reason that the "Best Mages in the world" would usually play the highest DPS spec. I know some of them will play what they like, no matter what, and make it work. But when they all play Fire and Arcane, there is a balancing issue with the damage.

Top end DPS players don't follow perception. They create it.


If Fire and Arcane do 1% more DPS than Frost, top-end raiders will predominantly choose those specs, even though it's only a difference of maybe 220 DPS. If you assume (as is reasonably the case) that these top-end raiders are also at the top-end of skill, gear, etc, that means that the top parses for Frost will be a group of players who aren't at that same tier of skill/gear/whatever, meaning that sites like stateofdps will show an even larger discrepancy between Fire/Arcane and Frost, maybe, say, 5%. Now, the group of players who min-max to 5% are speccing out of Frost, and the people left in Frost are even lower in comparisons of skill/gear/whatever, and the discrepancy grows.

What Blizz is correctly noting is that theorycrafters also create a metagame where certain specs are deemed "bad", which causes high-skill players to avoid that spec, reinforcing the original decision that a spec is "bad."
Whoamon
Korialstrasz
Whoamon
85 Troll Druid
2780
I would say that there were definately less questions answered than expected (probably due to shamans spamming the questions thread), but the answers themselves were much better than the tank answers. IMO, this has been the most honest and informative Q&A thread yet.

It wasnt perfect by any means, and they avoided the range vs. melee question... but overall, with the questions asked by the community, it was well done.
Mcslushy
Emerald Dream
Mcslushy
90 Human Mage
4155
Understandably they didnt answer many questions people had for hunters,warlocks and what ever else it is you guys seem to be complaining about but be lucky that they decided to take time out of what they have to do to answer questions asked...... i really dont even know why you guys complain so much about what is what you play wow you can create and character you want they made leveling a character as easy as its ever gonna get if your gonna hate on your own class reroll then but untill then take what you will get from 4.2 and move on with it dont complain because changes arent what you want sorry community is a whole not one person

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