Topic Goblins, a Question.
Døbbey
Thrall
Døbbey
62 Goblin Death Knight
1960
Edited by Døbbey on 7/11/11 1:49 PM (PDT)
Hello everyone on forums reading this. I would like to start off by saying sorry if this was a waste of your time, and this is not a qq about anything just something i had noticed and wondered if there was a reason for it.

During the goblin quests you notice at the beginning we have trolls mining for us, and you are required to gather ore from them later on. near the end of their starting quests you see goblins being enslaved and working as miners. Finally (i may be wrong please correct me if i am) we goblins not almost always made to mine for other races?

With all of that said we have a alchemy boost which is nice, but i am questioning why did blizzard pick us to have a alchemy boost over a mining since i haven't noticed to much of the goblin lore having to deal with herbs, or flasks or potions or any of that.

Thank you for your time :) your friendly wanna be harry potter goblin dobbey :D (yes i know hes an elf but there are no mini elfs so yea...i did my bets :l)
Keex
The Venture Co
Keex
85 Goblin Warlock
11555
An explosive is a goblin's best friend. Guess which science invented gunpowder? ;)

Beyond that, the thing goblins in WoW are best known for is engineering, but that racial already belongs to the gnomes. However, we do also have precedence in alchemy, thanks in large part to the Goblin Alchemist hero unit from WC3 (http://www.wowwiki.com/Goblin_Alchemist_%28Warcraft_III%29).

Beside which, we goblins have an advantage in creating new potions and elixirs, since we don't have those annoying "health and safety regulations" that make other races go through extensive testing phases before putting their products on the market.

Now then, can I interest you in a Potion of Invincibility? It's made with 100% natural* ingredients!

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Animalplanet
Stormrage
Animalplanet
85 Draenei Shaman
8655
Only Dobby was an elf...
Begginbits
Cairne
Begginbits
90 Goblin Hunter
7675
07/11/2011 01:38 PMPosted by Animalplanet
Only Dobby was an elf...


This.
Døbbey
Thrall
Døbbey
62 Goblin Death Knight
1960
Edited by Døbbey on 7/11/11 1:49 PM (PDT)
i know :l but there is no mini elfs here D: thats why i said wanna be :)

^^^^ thank you for your reasoning, i was not sure why but now i understand thank you :D
Silton
Norgannon
Silton
86 Human Paladin
7540
in harry potter the goblins run the bank and all the money in the wizard world.

also Dubby was a house elf, who got killed by Voldemort's crew in Deathly Hallows.( I was like NOOOOOOOOOOO! Dubby! why!? WHYYY!!???!)
Kakita
Duskwood
Kakita
85 Blood Elf Paladin
5955
Don't you start off as the head of a soda company. Potion Sales right there. :D
Keex
The Venture Co
Keex
85 Goblin Warlock
11555
in harry potter the goblins run the bank and all the money in the wizard world.

also Dubby was a house elf, who got killed by Voldemort's crew in Deathly Hallows.( I was like NOOOOOOOOOOO! Dubby! why!? WHYYY!!???!)


Another of several reasons I liked the movie version better than the book version: ending the first half with Dobby's death just gives his sacrifice that much more punch and significance. In the book it went by pretty fast, but in the movie it's the second to last thing we see, right before Voldy getting the uberwand.

Holy crap, the second half comes out this week, doesn't it?
Døbbey
Thrall
Døbbey
62 Goblin Death Knight
1960
it comes out the 15th (my brothers birthday :D) cant wait to see it!!!
Lylirra
Lylirra
Community Manager
07/11/2011 01:21 PMPosted by Døbbey
With all of that said we have a alchemy boost which is nice, but i am questioning why did blizzard pick us to have a alchemy boost over a mining since i haven't noticed to much of the goblin lore having to deal with herbs, or flasks or potions or any of that.


We picked the +15 to Alchemy bonus for goblins because there has always been a strong association between the race and the profession. Not only do goblins have a notable, if not sometimes-deadly penchant for experimentation in World of Warcraft (just take a look at Goblin Rocket Fuel, for example), but there was a Goblin Alchemist unit in Warcraft III, as well as a goblin alchemist building in Warcraft II. So the bonus fits both thematically and in terms of precedence.

Of course, you might feel differently and think that alchemy meshes a little better with another race, or that another profession (like mining) might be better suited for goblins, and that's cool. We're pretty happy with where goblin racials are currently, but we certainly always appreciate your feedback -- be it about something as large as class balance or as specific as how racial bonuses tie in terms of lore. :)
Freqychyk
Laughing Skull
Freqychyk
84 Goblin Shaman
1870
Hooray for the alchemy boost! I'm looking forward to leveling this profession.
Mutterscrawl
Feathermoon
Mutterscrawl
85 Undead Priest
3225
We really do need more alchemy with offensive options available for players.

I would suggest we get the goblins more active in Alchemy -ingame- and lorewise though.
Irony
Mannoroth
Irony
85 Goblin Priest
7860
Because as the superior race, we realized a +15 to mining, is no where near as good, as +15 to Alch.
Hynistriús
Aman'Thul
Hynistriús
85 Human Death Knight
2725
07/11/2011 01:53 PMPosted by Kakita
Don't you start off as the head of a soda company. Potion Sales right there. :D


LOL.

This.
Hynistriús
Aman'Thul
Hynistriús
85 Human Death Knight
2725
07/11/2011 03:34 PMPosted by Freqychyk
Hooray for the alchemy boost! I'm looking forward to leveling this profession.


It's a huge money maker.
Mirumahyr
Kilrogg
Mirumahyr
90 Orc Shaman
10290
07/11/2011 03:13 PMPosted by Lylirra
With all of that said we have a alchemy boost which is nice, but i am questioning why did blizzard pick us to have a alchemy boost over a mining since i haven't noticed to much of the goblin lore having to deal with herbs, or flasks or potions or any of that.


We picked the +15 to Alchemy bonus for goblins because there has always been a strong association between the race and the profession. Not only do goblins have a notable, if not sometimes-deadly penchant for experimentation in World of Warcraft (just take a look at Goblin Rocket Fuel, for example), but there was a Goblin Alchemist unit in Warcraft III, as well as a goblin alchemist building in Warcraft II. So the bonus fits both thematically and in terms of precedence.

Of course, you might feel differently and think that alchemy meshes a little better with another race, or that another profession (like mining) might be better suited for goblins, and that's cool. We're pretty happy with where goblin racials are currently, but we certainly always appreciate your feedback -- be it about something as large as class balance or as specific as how racial bonuses tie in terms of lore. :)


Well, I dunno about you guys, but since you bumped up the default water breathing, then the Forsaken's racial is kinda wasted unless you wanna go AFK while underwater...

Why not give Alchemy to the forsaken because of their unceasing efforts to create plagues (Apothecaries)

And give Goblins their mining racial, since it fits better (imo) with the lore you presented on them when cata was going to launch. (aka, the "we used to mine all the time for trolls" bit)
Plezurenpain
Eitrigg
Plezurenpain
85 Undead Priest
8745
We really do need more alchemy with offensive options available for players.

I would suggest we get the goblins more active in Alchemy -ingame- and lorewise though.


Pretty much this right here. It would make more sense to have the Forsaken to have a bonus to alchemy than Goblins. Wasn't WotLK based mostly on events that arose from the Forsaken? Also there is the Royal Apothocary Society that is active in Under City. There is far more lore and a Forsaken presense of alchemy than the Goblins.
Fleecia
Wyrmrest Accord
Fleecia
85 Troll Druid
2785
07/11/2011 03:13 PMPosted by Lylirra
Of course, you might feel differently and think that alchemy meshes a little better with another race, or that another profession (like mining) might be better suited for goblins, and that's cool. We're pretty happy with where goblin racials are currently, but we certainly always appreciate your feedback -- be it about something as large as class balance or as specific as how racial bonuses tie in terms of lore. :)


Lylirra, flying dragon kite! I have a suggestion, but in return for your time I will refit you with a High Test Eternium Fishing Line to help you glide even the strongest of summer winds!

Some professions are missing a racial match! As are races missing their profession:
Main
    Blacksmithing
    Inscription
    Leatherworking
    Mining
    Tailoring

Secondary
    Cooking
    First Aid
    Fishing

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Horde
    Orc
    Troll
    Forsaken

Alliance
    Human
    Night Elves

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Proposal:

Orc - Blacksmithing
(Orgrimmar has gone through a metallic renaissance, a skill any Orc would flaunt!)

Troll - Leatherworking
(Beasts and Trolls, been together so long mon. Surely we learn ta tan a few hides, ya?)

Forsaken - Tailoring
(If I were in stitches, I would want to learn how to sow a few threads too!)

Human - Mining
(Human masonry is amazing! And such clean cuts require great affinity with stoneware.)

Night Elves - Inscription
(Traditionally, elves are masterful scribes. Especially a race with a such a long history in magics.)

And keep the secondaries just that!~



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