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82 Night Elf Warrior
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Well apparently a member of this persons guild Dara Mactire received a phone call from a person who works for blizzard stating they enjoy there guild and there videos and they were more then happy to unban swifty. Why does a person who has nothing to do with said person receive a phone call from your company explaining things to a guilds members.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-CVMoRORo8&feature=feedu



Because he SAID that he got a phonecall??? omg. That is too funny to think that anyone would believe that Blizzard would call someone and say that.....hahaaa (stomache cramp from laughing)
85 Tauren Druid
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From the TOS

H. disrupt or assist in the disruption of (i) any computer used to support the Service (each a “Server”); or (ii) any other player's Game experience. ANY ATTEMPT BY YOU TO DISRUPT THE SERVICE OR UNDERMINE THE LEGITIMATE OPERATION OF THE GAME CLIENT MAY BE A VIOLATION OF CRIMINAL AND CIVIL LAWS.

It doesn't say anything about it being intentional or not, so don't push that garbage here. It fits like a glove. Forget being unbanned, according the TOS, these users, including swifty, even for the first time, are lucky to not have criminal or civil litigation against him.
56 Troll Death Knight
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Denial-of-service attacks (DDoS) violate the acceptable use policies of virtually all Internet service providers. They also commonly constitute violations of the laws of individual nations.

In the US, there can be a serious federal crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act with penalties that include years of imprisonment. Many other countries have similar laws.

However Swifty, Zybac and Dara Mactire guild get off scott free. THIS IS SO WRONG


it wasn't a DDoS, get off your soap box

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An attack which is successful in consuming resources on the victim computer must be either:

carried out by an attacker with great resources, by either:
controlling a computer with great computation power or, more commonly, large network bandwidth
controlling a large number of computers and directing them to attack as a group. A DDOS attack is the primary example of this.
taking advantage of a property of the operating system or applications on the victim system which enables an attack consuming vastly more of the victim's resources than the attacker's (an asymmetric attack).

the lack of intelligence in this thread is really beginning to dwindle
Edited by Azakzul on 7/19/2011 6:22 PM PDT
82 Night Elf Warrior
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-CVMoRORo8&feature=feedu


This again right here is proof!! And for all you who say don't believe all you hear, maybe you should take that advice for yourself.



Proof of WHAT?? That some guy made a video and said things? Are you all really this gullible?
The thing is, at the end of the day any one of us would have never been given another chance.
58 Gnome Death Knight
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it wasn't a DDoS, get off your soap box


Then you are unfamiliar with the definition of DDOS!
85 Goblin Warrior
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Why is this still going on? Swifty isn't even making such a big deal about it. He's enjoying being back by playing the game. Why can't you people just go back to the way things were?
58 Gnome Death Knight
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Denial-of-service attacks (DDoS) violate the acceptable use policies of virtually all Internet service providers. They also commonly constitute violations of the laws of individual nations.

In the US, there can be a serious federal crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act with penalties that include years of imprisonment. Many other countries have similar laws.

However Swifty, Zybac and Dara Mactire guild get off scott free. THIS IS SO WRONG


it wasn't a DDoS, get off your soap box

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An attack which is successful in consuming resources on the victim computer must be either:

carried out by an attacker with great resources, by either:
controlling a computer with great computation power or, more commonly, large network bandwidth
controlling a large number of computers and directing them to attack as a group. A DDOS attack is the primary example of this.
taking advantage of a property of the operating system or applications on the victim system which enables an attack consuming vastly more of the victim's resources than the attacker's (an asymmetric attack).

the lack of intelligence in this thread is really beginning to dwindle

Um you only copypasta the section that helps you make a point by pointing out some of the TYPES of DDOS attacks and not the definition of a DDoS Attack, here lemme help you wipe some mud off:

Go back through, read this thread til you find my post where i paste the definition of a DDoS and its source.
TL;DR in this thread gets you nowhere.
30 Draenei Mage
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07/19/2011 06:23 PMPosted by Puzu
The thing is, at the end of the day any one of us would have never been given another chance.
The thing is, he was not the only one banned and not the only one who had the punishment 'reduced' after they had a chance to filter through the logs. People are ignoring this fact.

He was however the only one to be so vocal about it and to cry about it on youtube.
Edited by Shalil on 7/19/2011 6:28 PM PDT
82 Night Elf Warrior
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07/19/2011 04:59 PMPosted by Jarlwaz
You people are a bunch of washed up sorry trolls. How about you worry about yourselves and play the game as intended. Stop worrying so much about something you probably weren’t even there to see.

That's what the rest of the world was saying while Hitler marched across Europe. I know, extreme, but poignant all the same.


For the record, I think that it is ridiculous that people are comparing things that happen between a game company and the game's users to ANYTHING regarding Hitler. This is just as stupid as people who said that the ban of Swifty was "worse than 9/11".
so stupid.
58 Gnome Death Knight
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The thing is, at the end of the day any one of us would have never been given another chance.
The thing is, he was not the only one banned and not the only one who had the punishment 'reduced' after they had a chance to filter through the logs. People are ignoring this fact.

He was however the only one to be so vocal about it and to cry about it on youtube.


According to him and some firsthand reports, he wasnt just reduced, but flat out UNBANNED.

So now we have some kind of knowledge that if we lead a DDOS attack on a few servers, that we can hope for at most a 19hr ban?

B/c thats what this is saying to us!
Edited by Icebang on 7/19/2011 6:30 PM PDT
90 Goblin Rogue
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07/19/2011 06:23 PMPosted by Puzu
The thing is, at the end of the day any one of us would have never been given another chance.
i have and no one knows who i am
85 Orc Warrior
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07/19/2011 06:26 PMPosted by Noxturn
Why is this still going on? Swifty isn't even making such a big deal about it. He's enjoying being back by playing the game. Why can't you people just go back to the way things were?


Because that's not how the forums work, and people here just rage/QQ all day rather than playing the game.
56 Troll Death Knight
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-CVMoRORo8&feature=feedu



This again right here is proof!! And for all you who say don't believe all you hear, maybe you should take that advice for yourself.


There was no mention of anything like "Hey guys maybe we shouldn't be doing this", or anything to quell the situation. yet the incident happened not once, but three times.
85 Draenei Mage
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Because DDOS is a serious infraction thats not just related to the game, you hear of this all over whenever a major group like yahoo, microsoft, etc, has it happen to them.
Dont fool yourself, its WAS a DDOS on at least 3 servers, if not more, I found a page where they claim to have taken down 5+ servers.
Then you have the backlash where players felt the need to continue to flood servers in the same fashion in a riotous mob.
All these players "should" have had a certain type of punishment. Who knows if they did or not.
What we do know is that this "celeb" was "perma-banned", according to him, then later on posted on his youtube that he was "unbanned" as did his sponsor on thier facebook page. They didnt say it was reduced, they said UNBANNED.
Double standard when the videos clearly show the involvement and encouragement of said "celeb".


^ I agree, this
Because the crucial evidences have been either doctored or removed form the web. Specifically look at my previous post where i link the pages of the stream, the page that held the original stream and a pretty evident boast about it has an imbedded video that is now "private".

<a href="http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2842767666?page=29#568">http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2842767666?page=29#568">http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2842767666?page=29#568">http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2842767666?page=29#568</a>

And the second post has the link to most of the stream which had been heavily edited with music to cover up the parts where this "celeb" and his buddies are clearly heard to be going right along with the griefing and the attack engcouraging it at points and even moving from server to server after they had already crashed one server.

<a href="http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2842767666?page=30#597">http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2842767666?page=30#597">http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2842767666?page=30#597">http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2842767666?page=30#597</a>


I dont know about the rest of us but if any of us "non-celebs" were to lead and orchestrate repeated DDOS attacks on the servers, we probably wouldnt have the luxury of a "review".

The first crash was an accident but it was evident it was like giving a child a lighter who accidentally burns down a house, instead of stopping there, this child decided to burn down several more houses instead.

Dont bother making some blah blah QQ about how you cant compare this to real crimes like arson when in fact DDOS is in actuality a VERY SERIOUS crime in most locals.


^THIS

Infinite times this.


Thank you, you logical person.
30 Draenei Mage
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07/19/2011 06:29 PMPosted by Icebang
The thing is, he was not the only one banned and not the only one who had the punishment 'reduced' after they had a chance to filter through the logs. People are ignoring this fact.

He was however the only one to be so vocal about it and to cry about it on youtube.


According to him and some firsthand reports, he wasnt just reduced, but flat out UNBANNED.

So now we have some kind of knowledge that if we lead a DDOS attack on a few servers, that we can hope for at most a 19hr ban?

B/c thats what this is saying to us!
Unless the firsthand reports are done by Blizzard, then they lack credibility. Blizzard does not disclose their disciplinary actions of individuals so publicly, never have and never will. If he would have gotten a 19 hour ban, but it took 32 hours to come to the conclusion that he wasn't actually at fault, then yes his account would have been immediately reactivated because he had already waited the 19 hours.

If I am not mistaken, it was at least a day before his account became unbanned. Meaning he would have already served the 19 hours.
58 Gnome Death Knight
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According to him and some firsthand reports, he wasnt just reduced, but flat out UNBANNED.

So now we have some kind of knowledge that if we lead a DDOS attack on a few servers, that we can hope for at most a 19hr ban?

B/c thats what this is saying to us!
Unless the firsthand reports are done by Blizzard, then they lack credibility. Blizzard does not disclose their disciplinary actions of individuals so publicly, never have and never will. If he would have gotten a 19 hour ban, but it took 32 hours to come to the conclusion that he wasn't actually at fault, then yes his account would have been immediately reactivated because he had already waited the 19 hours.

If I am not mistaken, it was at least a day before his account became unbanned. Meaning he would have already served the 19 hours.


Its so easy to find the ones who havent even READ this thread...
56 Troll Death Knight
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07/19/2011 06:27 PMPosted by Icebang
Um you only copypasta the section that helps you make a point by pointing out some of the TYPES of DDOS attacks and not the definition of a DDoS Attack, here lemme help you wipe some mud off:


A denial-of-service attack (DoS attack) or distributed denial-of-service attack (DDoS attack) is an attempt to make a computer resource unavailable to its intended users

A DoS attack can be perpetrated in a number of ways. The five basic types of attack are:[citation needed]

Consumption of computational resources, such as bandwidth, disk space, or processor time.
Disruption of configuration information, such as routing information.
Disruption of state information, such as unsolicited resetting of TCP sessions.
Disruption of physical network components.
Obstructing the communication media between the intended users and the victim so that they can no longer communicate adequately.

yes?...and??...
Edited by Azakzul on 7/19/2011 6:39 PM PDT
07/19/2011 06:27 PMPosted by Shalil
The thing is, at the end of the day any one of us would have never been given another chance.
The thing is, he was not the only one banned and not the only one who had the punishment 'reduced' after they had a chance to filter through the logs. People are ignoring this fact.


And you honestly buy that? Its plain obvious what happened, the bottom line is this, whether you wan't to believe it or not had it happened to me or you going through the logs and all the begging in the world wouldn't have made them revoke the punishment.
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