Dear Alliance of Lightninghoof

85 Worgen Death Knight
3620
I have become completely disgusted with the alliance on my current server and I am looking to transfer to Lightninghoof. But before I do I would like to ask a few questions.

To begin I will say that I really want to start raiding as I have never raided before. I am geared to tank and I know how to play my class quite well, however, the alliance of my current server is only interested in FL. I would much rather start in the T11 raids since I have little to no experience raiding.

So to ask my question, would there be any semi-casual raiding guilds still running the pre FL raids that would take in this poor lost Worgen? On core team or alternate raid team I don't care, I must begin somewhere.

As for a bio: I am a friendly, mature, and active player looking to begin tanking (or dpsing) raids. I am always willing to learn and can take orders well. I have a great raiding resource in an rl friend who no longer plays, but has tanked all raids excluding FL. I also have RP experience for the record.

Regards,
Thoyd
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90 Night Elf Mage
6595
join jazzberry bam #1 pvp guild lhoof
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85 Worgen Death Knight
3620
If you guys plan on starting to raid I will keep you guys in mind when I do switch over. Kinda burnt out on pvp atm though.
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88 Night Elf Hunter
6480
07/22/2011 06:19 PMPosted by Corked
join jazzberry bam #1 pvp guild lhoof


I applaud your support of your guild, but let's not get hasty on the whole "#1 pvp guild lhoof" when you guys are level 3 with 13 members. :)
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100 Blood Elf Rogue
16560
07/23/2011 12:24 AMPosted by Lychee
I applaud your support of your guild, but let's not get hasty on the whole "#1 pvp guild lhoof" when you guys are level 3 with 13 members. :)


I bet their average arena ratings are higher than most, if not all other guilds though


Perhaps they should say "#1 arena guild lhoof".
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88 Night Elf Hunter
6480
07/23/2011 12:24 AMPosted by Lychee
I bet their average arena ratings are higher than most, if not all other guilds though


High arena ratings does not a "#1 pvp guild lhoof" make. ;)

07/23/2011 07:36 AMPosted by Jeina
Perhaps they should say "#1 arena guild lhoof".


This, though I think JV might spank them on that one. Maybe they should try the "#1 arena guild lhoof Alliance" tag instead. *shrug*
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85 Human Mage
2800
07/23/2011 11:57 AMPosted by Solva
I bet their average arena ratings are higher than most, if not all other guilds though


High arena ratings does not a "#1 pvp guild lhoof" make. ;)

Perhaps they should say "#1 arena guild lhoof".


This, though I think JV might spank them on that one. Maybe they should try the "#1 arena guild lhoof Alliance" tag instead. *shrug*


You imply that being the best at Arena doesn't carry over to other stuff like battlegrounds or world pvp.
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100 Human Warrior
10535
07/23/2011 12:06 PMPosted by Vendy


High arena ratings does not a "#1 pvp guild lhoof" make. ;)



This, though I think JV might spank them on that one. Maybe they should try the "#1 arena guild lhoof Alliance" tag instead. *shrug*


You imply that being the best at Arena doesn't carry over to other stuff like battlegrounds or world pvp.


They have 1 rated arena team, which is the highest on LH, but none of them are on the rated BG list so? To have the #1 pvp guild you'd think they have it all. Best 2's, best 3's, best 5's, highest rated in rateds, a proven track record of world pvp battles/wins..etc This is just silly to claim #1 pvp guild as one 3's team doesn't dictate all of pvp.
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100 Blood Elf Rogue
16560
07/23/2011 12:06 PMPosted by Vendy
You imply that being the best at Arena doesn't carry over to other stuff like battlegrounds or world pvp.


A possibly valid argument had they said "#1 talented pvpers lhoof".
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85 Human Priest
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You imply that being the best at Arena doesn't carry over to other stuff like battlegrounds or world pvp.


They have 1 rated arena team, which is the highest on LH, but none of them are on the rated BG list so? To have the #1 pvp guild you'd think they have it all. Best 2's, best 3's, best 5's, highest rated in rateds, a proven track record of world pvp battles/wins..etc This is just silly to claim #1 pvp guild as one 3's team doesn't dictate all of pvp.


JV has two people I would call arena players (HJ and Zervium). So no, they would not spank them.

@Odinn -
2s? rofl, nice one.
3s? The only PvP bracket that matters when determining skill until late season 5s.
5s? Not done competitively till end of season.

RBG's? Pointless to think that there is any real personal skill involved. The RBG leader is what tends to determine the rating that the team will get to. Having good players on your team is only a small factor, as strats and communication tend to rake in wins, not individual badassery.

World PvP battles? lol only in your world do they stand for a measure of skill.



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100 Gnome Priest
9395
Why are we discussing this any further everyone should just recognize us as the best pvp guild on lhoof
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100 Blood Elf Rogue
16560
Skill has nothing to do with it.

Claiming to be the "#1 pvp guild lhoof" while only participating in Arena would be like claiming to be the "#1 pve guild lhoof" while only leveling alts.

If you want to be #1 in a single aspect of the game you have to participate in all aspects of that aspect.

Those are the rules that I just made up.

Abide by them or forever be cursed.
Edited by Jeina on 7/23/2011 4:16 PM PDT
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90 Night Elf Mage
6595
Skill has nothing to do with it.

Claiming to be the "#1 pvp guild lhoof" while only participating in Arena would be like claiming to be the "#1 pve guild lhoof" while only leveling alts.

If you want to be #1 in a single aspect of the game you have to participate in all aspects of that aspect.

Those are the rules that I just made up.

Abide by them or forever be cursed.



aspects
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07/23/2011 04:16 PMPosted by Jeina
while only leveling alts.


I am totally good at doing that.
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100 Blood Elf Rogue
16560
07/23/2011 05:57 PMPosted by Corked
aspects


Dragons.
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07/23/2011 06:00 PMPosted by Carstine
while only leveling alts.


I am totally good at doing that.


I believe Neshara has you beat, though.

@Facemelter: No real personal skill? I mean, sure, RBGs have their faults, but just like in 3s, one person's fault can easily cripple a team. Is it possible to recover easier from a mistake in RBGs? Possibly, but any team based thing at high levels needs everyone to be their personal and team best. Leadership plays a significant role, but it is kind of like saying world firsts involve little personal skill because all it is standing out of the fire and perfectly dodging raid mechanics and blah blah blah.
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100 Human Warrior
10535


They have 1 rated arena team, which is the highest on LH, but none of them are on the rated BG list so? To have the #1 pvp guild you'd think they have it all. Best 2's, best 3's, best 5's, highest rated in rateds, a proven track record of world pvp battles/wins..etc This is just silly to claim #1 pvp guild as one 3's team doesn't dictate all of pvp.


JV has two people I would call arena players (HJ and Zervium). So no, they would not spank them.

@Odinn -
2s? rofl, nice one.
3s? The only PvP bracket that matters when determining skill until late season 5s.
5s? Not done competitively till end of season.

RBG's? Pointless to think that there is any real personal skill involved. The RBG leader is what tends to determine the rating that the team will get to. Having good players on your team is only a small factor, as strats and communication tend to rake in wins, not individual badassery.

World PvP battles? lol only in your world do they stand for a measure of skill.


So I suppose you consider pvp to only be the 3's bracket then? As mentioned above, being #1 in one small portion of pvp doesn't make you #1 in all of it.
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