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warriors suck now pvp ?
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seems till about 2 weeks ago my warrior was doing well in pvp . now I feel like 80 game again which was really bad.my strength does not compare to what there using against me and Ccs. priest now in disc able to absorb my whole blade storm etc and my other hits , healers over healing anything we can do.I was able to solo 2 rogues till lately.. i cant beat one now, has anything changed I don't know about ?, last patch didn't have much except the 8% decrease .my warrior did not show in the log screen so I am posting on this toon .I am 11000 ap non buffed . 375 all pvp res geared . are we screwed again or is it just me ? thanks
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Warriors are difficult to balance. They bring nothing to the table in pvp outside of pressure. If they do too much damage, like last patch, they are unstoppable and op. If they do too little damage, like now, they are worthless.
To answer your question warriors are very bad in pvp right now. 2nd lowest arena rep just a bit in front of lowly hunters. |
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thats exactly how i feel . ok ty guys least I don't feel its just me now. before the patch we rocked , and we deserved it after the wicked 80 game nerf we had . but now its right back again it seems. how come mages never get a nerf , seems were the hated by blizz .lol think after 6 years its time to hangup wow and try something else ...
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Both warriors and DK's are turning into glass cannons, and this is boring, most because our cannos are out off powder. Warriors need more independence from dispellers e healers and a better healing debuff to bring something to the tabble besides damage and a generic stun.
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Warriors are difficult to balance. They bring nothing to the table in pvp outside of pressure. If they do too much damage, like last patch, they are unstoppable and op. If they do too little damage, like now, they are worthless. this.. fixing: give some utility/mobility to warriors, not moar damage |
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Edited by Bloodstripe on 8/18/11 4:17 PM (PDT)
Hmm.. Man warriors got hit hard in the patch >.> WHY would blizz reduce there 2-handed weapon specialty from like 24% - like 12? WTF MAN?!? I can't come near a rogue because dmg can't even get passed there recup unless there gear is fail, and paladins are just a Why bother issue all they do is wings and ur dead... how is that fair? You pop every c/d and they only go from 100%-20% then they bubble heal to 75% and it goes on and on until they kite / outlast you. And then Mages how are us warriors even supposed to be able to get more then 3 hits on them? If ur gunna make us get only a couple hits on a mage give us somthing more to the second wind idea. JS here are some idea's to help warrior's out in PVP and not PVE!
Second Wind : Heals you **% for ** amount of time after getting hit with a stun, Also increases damage done by **% when getting rooted / snared by a magic effect (Note:Hunters slow's do not count! Only magic effects such as Mages frost nova , Cone Of Cold , Ring Of Ice , Death Coil , SPriests debuff or w.e and then last but not least druids root) This effect will stack up to a maximum of 3 times. (This gives you an edge for those healers that use the "Root N Run" Method or Frost Mages, It will make them think a bit more about which skills to use and not just run around and slow / root you till you just stand there and give up :) ) Also after the stack of 3 has been activated you are unable to be rooted,slowed,feared,seduced,immobilized, and gain a **% boost to movement speed. Enduring Victory (Think that was an old talent or glyph) / Taste For Blood : When you use shattering throw to break an invulnerability effect your next attack gains 50% increased damage. (For after the mage / paladin bubbles then heals) BladeStorm : Sends the caster into a sequence of whirlwinds causing 150% weapon damage every second. (Not sure if thats quite high or not was aiming for the Original BladeStorm) 2-Handed Weapon Specialty : Increases damage when using 2-handed weapons by 24% These are just some examples of talents that would help warriors out in the PVP field,None are meant for PVE! : / I fight Holypowerxx daily , And there is SO much of a difference of when cata first came out and now. Ret paladins have been buffed up so much its insane,where as arms warriors just got thrown away :( Its hard to do any real PVP on warriors =.= due to the fact that skill only increases your ability to beat peeps by like 5-10% ~(EDIT) Also Im comment on the glass cannon reference, Yea us warriors have gone to gumballs being shot out of a $3 million cannon :( Warriors need some love,And im just gunna ask but....Why do paladins,mages,and rogues ALWAYS get the best of everything? We just sit patiently waiting for our time of the patch till we can pwn again,Then we go rage over everyone >:@! Maybe thats why blizz keeps nerfing us eh? Nah,Guess its time to wait for the next patch and see how it is until then hang up all your warriors and role mages! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ~BloodStripe - The Warrior that eats paladins dailey. |
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This arena season has been a bit rough, to be sure. But we shine in BGs. If you are having trouble there I think it is a PEBKAC issue. Ran 2x BGs today to get my 25 conquest. One win, one loss.
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Even as a low level warrior, I find PvP to be hilariously fun as Prot. It takes gangs of 3-4 people to bring me down. One on one? I eat most classes alive except maybe a frost mage.
I realize of course that "low level pvp doesn't matter", but the fact I'm having fun as prot does. |
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Practice practice practice. We have the tools and damage to beat people its just a matter of knowledge. Watch swifty vids. Yes they help. I dump on rogues now thanks to him and now frost mages actually have to ice block/evocate when i duel them. Its all about what to use and when to use it. Good luck everyone and stay proud warriors! :D
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Presumably, if you have a 359 weapon/gear and aren't as accustomed to pvp (say not a repeated high end pvp warrior), you'll be constantly thinking warriors suck something awful.
Presumably, if you have a 378 weapon/gear, you are fine with how a warrior is, although there is a bit of rng and certain classes are a little more pushtowin (feral druids, frost mages, you know). Presumably, if you have a 391 weapon/gear, you are happy enough with warriors to not focus on a fotm, except when you get out played by another player of roughly the same gear/skill. |
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- MS should apply a 30% reduction to incoming healing debuff.
- Charge should also apply hamstring or grant us a temporary movement speed boost. - Shouts off the global cooldown - Lambs to the Slaughter stacks activate with OP and Slam, not just MS. - Recklessness should have the + incoming damage debuff removed. We need to make a list of reasonable improvements we want, and keep asking for them over and over again. Perhaps send GC a cake with said list written in icing on it. Cake works wonders. |
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meh i feel warriors are fine, we dont need any more cc's and mobility aint to big of a problem if u ask for dispells. I also found that speccing into incite helped me out alot more than slam spec
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Ive been PvPing as Prot so I dont expect to do much damage... but even at 85 ive been having lots of fun as Prot. Tried arms but i cant get into it, I love bladestorming people but thats about it.... Prot is a blast though and I heard Fury could be fun as well.
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So, gear got better, meaning armor and resil got greater, and you are using the same weapons.
Yea, must be the class that has an issue here. |
