frost mage pvp in 4.3....

85 Night Elf Druid
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hello, first off, i would like to say i am not crying or anything. i just want pvp to be fun again and for certain comps not to wreck other comps just because of the classes they have. arena no longer requires skill it requires what comp you play. and as you have been aware for 2 expansions now frost mages are entirely too overpowered in arena. they have almost infinite cc, super damage, a stun (technically) that increases their damage by a TON that they can use avidly, way too much absorbs, and an immunity that they can use twice per arena that gets rid of all dots and bleeds yet still allows them to be healed. i understand you want them to be viable in pve as well but there needs to be some balance bc right now they are entirely too easy and completely ruin fun in pvp. I think it's about time they got hit with the nerf bat (hard) in 4.3. :D
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85 Human Death Knight
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no, in 4.3 mages are getting better self heals, they have the worst self heals in the game, at this point hunters are better than them when it come to self heals, so they are getting new and improved self heals
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85 Night Elf Druid
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did blizzard say that? if so im done with pvp because thats totally ridiculous.
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5 Blood Elf Rogue
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they are joking it would be beyond stupid to give mages another heal besides glyphed evo.
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85 Human Mage
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09/04/2011 05:20 AMPosted by Tyllivan
they are joking it would be beyond stupid to give mages another heal besides glyphed evo.



he's lying they are changing enduring winter to give hp instead of mana they feel like mages should run out of mana faster and that they are 2 trainable
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90 Draenei Priest
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Am I the only one that finds it amusing that a Feral posted this?
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09/04/2011 08:25 AMPosted by Ayani
Am I the only one that finds it amusing that a Feral posted this?
I didn't so much find it amusing, as I found it not surprising in the slightest.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
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09/04/2011 05:26 AMPosted by Meduse
they are joking it would be beyond stupid to give mages another heal besides glyphed evo.



he's lying they are changing enduring winter to give hp instead of mana they feel like mages should run out of mana faster and that they are 2 trainable


please tell me that your kidding...
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85 Undead Mage
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09/04/2011 05:10 AMPosted by Ladoreian
for 2 expansions now frost mages are entirely too overpowered in arena.


wat.

Mages just need a nerf to our mastery, all other crying and QQing is honestly a L2P issue.
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85 Blood Elf Priest
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Nerf mastery slightly, bump deep up to a 45 second cd. With the lag associated with dispeling cold effects off yourself deep is very difficult to avoid, and a really strong ability in conjunction with spammable cc. Shouldn't be on such a short cd imo.

Other than that i don't think they are any more ridiculous than most cataclysm classes.
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85 Undead Mage
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09/04/2011 10:46 AMPosted by Stymic
bump deep up to a 45 second cd.


Or instead of doing something stupid like this (which would also nerf mage pve dps) just move impact down in the fire tree so it's unobtainable for frost (like it should be).
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85 Goblin Mage
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09/04/2011 08:25 AMPosted by Ayani
Am I the only one that finds it amusing that a Feral posted this?



Ferals are the most OP class known to man ( DKs a close runner up) if you knew how to play, you would be good. Frost mages are a l2p issue.
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85 Human Warlock
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09/04/2011 11:07 AMPosted by Clovius
Ferals are the most OP class known to man ( DKs a close runner up) if you knew how to play, you would be good. Frost mages are a l2p issue.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyMXYE_50Ts
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85 Undead Mage
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In before someone says Ghostcrawler plays a Mage.
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85 Human Paladin
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Ghostcrawler plays a Mage.
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85 Human Priest
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for 2 expansions now frost mages are entirely too overpowered in arena.


wat.

Mages just need a nerf to our mastery, all other crying and QQing is honestly a L2P issue.

Moving impact further down the tree would be a good step too. It procs too often and gives frost mages way too many more spell interrupts.

09/04/2011 10:54 AMPosted by Xiun
bump deep up to a 45 second cd.


Or instead of doing something stupid like this (which would also nerf mage pve dps) just move impact down in the fire tree so it's unobtainable for frost (like it should be).


Hah, didn't see this. Kudos.
Edited by Caelrie on 9/4/2011 12:18 PM PDT
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90 Draenei Shaman
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09/04/2011 10:54 AMPosted by Xiun
bump deep up to a 45 second cd.


Or instead of doing something stupid like this (which would also nerf mage pve dps) just move impact down in the fire tree so it's unobtainable for frost (like it should be).


no one cares about frost dmg in pve, go arcane and spam 1 to get to the top of the meter
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85 Blood Elf Death Knight
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09/04/2011 11:07 AMPosted by Clovius
Am I the only one that finds it amusing that a Feral posted this?



Ferals are the most OP class known to man ( DKs a close runner up) if you knew how to play, you would be good. Frost mages are a l2p issue.


lllllllllllllLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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85 Human Death Knight
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for 2 expansions now frost mages are entirely too overpowered in arena.


wat.

Mages just need a nerf to our mastery, all other crying and QQing is honestly a L2P issue.


Mages are by no means insanely OP -- it's a feat to pull off being a good mage, that being said I think their opening is a bit retarded and counterspell in the slightest needs its distance shortened -- max range shutting down a healer is retarded.
Edited by Thaladius on 9/4/2011 12:30 PM PDT
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85 Undead Mage
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There is nothing wrong with CS, our mastery just needs the boot.
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