Censure Hotfix Incoming

90 Draenei Paladin
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09/09/2011 02:39 PMPosted by Daxxarri
After monitoring thousands of Firelands kills, we've concluded that Retribution’s damage was not where we wanted it to be, so we're going to increase Censure damage by roughly 40%. We'll also be keeping an eye on paladin damage as we move towards patch 4.3. We expect that this hotfix should be applied sometime later today.

Will this only be for Retribution or will all Paladin (I'm Protection) see this increase as well?
90 Troll Priest
11765
This is a cause for a celebration! Who is up for a beer or 12?
85 Orc Shaman
4805
How about those enhancement shamans dmg?
Edited by Stom on 9/9/2011 3:19 PM PDT
85 Tauren Paladin
1020
DOOD!
85 Blood Elf Paladin
9410
09/09/2011 02:39 PMPosted by Daxxarri
We're also considering shifting some of the damage from Hammer of Wrath into other attacks. While that may not necessarily cure some of the current concerns about proc reliance, it should help smooth out damage a bit.


thank you
90 Human Death Knight
15520
This isn't the fix ret paladins need at all.
90 Draenei Shaman
13090
09/09/2011 03:19 PMPosted by Stom
How about those enhancement shamans dmg?


Enhancement single target sustained is fine.

Lack of burst or meaningful cooldowns is a problem, but less of one than being unable to compete in PvE overall. These are bigger problems in PvP of course.

Enhancement's PvE problems lie in its unusable AoE mechanics.


Edit - this is obviously a needed change for Retribution, but it really probably should be Retribution only - Prot Paladin damage doesn't need to go up.
Edited by Ashunera on 9/9/2011 3:25 PM PDT
85 Tauren Paladin
7660
thank you
90 Blood Elf Paladin
6810
After monitoring thousands of Firelands kills, we've concluded that Retribution’s damage was not where we wanted it to be, so we're going to increase Censure damage by roughly 40%. We'll also be keeping an eye on paladin damage as we move towards patch 4.3. We expect that this hotfix should be applied sometime later today.

We're also considering shifting some of the damage from Hammer of Wrath into other attacks. While that may not necessarily cure some of the current concerns about proc reliance, it should help smooth out damage a bit.


Shifting?? Can we get a new talent that replace sefless healer?

Avenger strike
10 sec cooldown no GCD 15% mana

Does 75% weapon damage as physical/holy and refresh Inquisition??

It's a Huge DPs loss keeping up Inquisition. For High end geared Ret that's about 60-90k 3 HP TV every now and then on wasted on keeping Inquisition up.
85 Blood Elf Paladin
8790
09/09/2011 03:24 PMPosted by Cleve
This isn't the fix ret paladins need at all.


It's not a fix...it's a band-aid.

Our fix will be in the next expansion. You know, the one where we'll be re-learning the spec again.
90 Blood Elf Paladin
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While this is unlikely to be a panacea for all of ret's issues, we appreciate that attempts are being made to bring the spec up to par.
85 Tauren Warrior
11195
Be careful with this change, Ret dps might be down but Prot's isnt. Censure hotfix would be increasing damage on rets but also increase prots which isnt lacking like ret is atm.
90 Human Paladin
15265
09/09/2011 03:27 PMPosted by Grumster
Be careful with this change, Ret dps might be down but Prot's isnt. Censure hotfix would be increasing damage on rets but also increase prots which isnt lacking like ret is atm.


How would prots damage going up affect anything? Tanks hit harder? Dont think people seriously PVP as prot anymore, though I could be wrong.

But because of Censures nature as a stacking dot, is why they chose it. Dont think the bump itll give to Prot (Tanking) dps will mean much
85 Orc Death Knight
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09/09/2011 03:26 PMPosted by Macross
This isn't the fix ret paladins need at all.


It's not a fix...it's a band-aid.

Our fix will be in the next expansion. You know, the one where we'll be re-learning the spec again.


Its not even a bandaid... its maybe a ~3% increase in damage done over the course of a given fight.

The easiest fix to this would be to make crusader strike 3.5 second cooldown... as it stands half the time rets aren't hitting a button and waiting for a bunch of crap to come off cooldown.
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