Topic Alliance population problem. Please help!
Elfitall
Nathrezim
Elfitall
85 Night Elf Hunter
2135
Hey, guys. I've noticed quite a few Alliance friends disappearing off my friend list, and I've noticed most of them have just transferred to horde, or just aren't on the server anymore. At least 4 of my friends in a few months...which isn't a lot, but lately I've noticed the economy is garbage, there's never anything on the AH anymore, and if there is, it's insanely expensive.

I went to http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php and checked out Nathrezim's numbers...It's really bad.

Server: Nathrezim
Active since: 12/04

Alliance Population: 263 (6%) (>level 10, played in the last 30 days)

Horde Population: 3,967 (94%) (>level 10, played in the last 30 days)

Total Recorded Population: 4,230

Now, some of these numbers have not been recently updated. If you go that website I mentioned and view Nathrezim, the Alliance number is red, and the Horde number is yellow. Horde data is fairly new, but Alliance data is very, very old.

I know we're not the only realm out there with a population balance problem, but I guess my hope is that Blizzard will do something to re-vitalize the population, either a full > low population server transfer for free, or merging a few servers...but I want to know if the population is REALLY that low.

I've installed The CensusPlus UI mod @ http://www.warcraftrealms.com/censusplus.php and will be uploading my results often. I hope everyone on Alliance, and the Horde do the same.

Thanks!
Holyfield
Nathrezim
Holyfield
85 Orc Warrior
9705
There is definitely a problem that Blizzard should address. The only time this server has any semblance of a decent population is 1) the 1 month period following an expansion and 2) the 1 week period following a major content patch. At almost all other times it's dead, which makes recruiting raiders, finding PvP partners, etc. very difficult. Trying to get a prospective raider to server transfer here is like pulling teeth.

That being said, here are some "more accurate" numbers from WoWProgress:

About Nathrezim
Guilds Ranked: 86
Characters: 5,302
Horde / Alliance: 1 / 0.60 (62.5%:37.5%)
Total Horde: 3,314
Total Alliance: 1988

Source: http://www.wowprogress.com/pve/us/nathrezim

These are max level characters who have participated in a ranked raid, so they may not be accurate. The numbers can't tell if the players are alts or anything like that, either.
Jaldy
Nathrezim
Jaldy
85 Dwarf Warrior
6625
Edited by Jaldy on 9/15/11 1:34 PM (PDT)
Yeah. Using ranked content seems like a much better idea to gauge population.

I'd like to get a lot more exposure to this problem. Thanks for posting!
Zendoh
Nathrezim
Zendoh
85 Gnome Warrior
8875
i do recall that during the first day of expansion of cata, when i get to mount hyjal, my screen is flooded with red tags and hardly any green . so there is no way that the ratio is 1 to 2. horde here at least 3 times more than the alliance
Elfitall
Nathrezim
Elfitall
85 Night Elf Hunter
2135
My first census for the last 6 hours has completed, which included peak times.

Total Unique Alliance Characters: 489.
Total Unique Alliance Characters at level 85: 304

Will run for a few more days for maximum results before I upload the info.
Ccatalyst
Nathrezim
Ccatalyst
85 Tauren Warrior
7695
Oh. Sorry. That's probably my bad. It looks kind of skewed on warcraftrealms because I have the census addon auto scanning and uploading every day, or more than once a day. Hence the terrible ratio.
Elfitall
Nathrezim
Elfitall
85 Night Elf Hunter
2135
I'm going to create a level 1 Horde character and run a quick census there to see what initial numbers show.
Elfitall
Nathrezim
Elfitall
85 Night Elf Hunter
2135
Not a very good sample, but a quick result:

Took 6 minutes 31 seconds (Alliance census generally takes 2 minutes 30 seconds)

Total Unique Horde Characters: 593
Total Unique Horde Characters at level 85: 412
Elfitall
Nathrezim
Elfitall
85 Night Elf Hunter
2135
A whole weekend of census data has been helpful to show that Alliance may not be completely dead, but it's sure down there:

Nathrezim

Alliance: 1,486 (25%)

Horde: 4,344 (75%)
Tyræl
Nathrezim
Tyræl
85 Human Paladin
7315
I applaud the work you have done and hope that Blizzard will take notice and hopefully be able to do something about it. (...probably not, sadly)
Jaldy
Proudmoore
Jaldy
84 Worgen Druid
1630
Edited by Jaldy on 9/21/11 6:02 AM (PDT)
Thanks!

I need everyone's help though. :D

So far from the Warcraft Realms website: Total level 85s: (Not unique accounts)

Total Alliance: 1,291 - 33%
Total Horde: 2,673 - 67%
Bigbewtyjudy
Nathrezim
Bigbewtyjudy
85 Human Death Knight
11245
Retribution is fun to raid with and we are looking for a ranged dps! Come to the alliance side and raid with us. Plus if you are into the whole pvp thing then there are PLENTY of horde to kill in TB.
Serabi
Cairne
Serabi
85 Gnome Priest
4980
Wait a min....

I like the whole Forsaken thing
Boppit
Nathrezim
Boppit
85 Draenei Shaman
2690
An update today for the month of October:

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=60

Nathrezim isn't quite as dead as I had feared (hoped). We had about 81 new Alliance entries submitted since I raised awareness of this thread, and about 40 or so Horde entries.

Need more Horde to collect census data! Thanks!
Bloodbáne
Nathrezim
Bloodbáne
85 Tauren Death Knight
3700
Sorry but I wouldnt say there are plenty of horde to kill in TB lol alliance rarely does any of that. Played ally on this server since vanilla finally got tired of losing all the time after going through many Wintergrasp losses in WOTLK so I transfered horde.
Lital
Sargeras
Lital
85 Worgen Druid
10035
time to go through the entire forums and bump a post 5 months old to give my two cents
Ultron
Nathrezim
Ultron
85 Draenei Paladin
11735
I would like five cents my good sir

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