Save Alterac Valley!

100 Blood Elf Mage
16715
I dont think they will make a classic AV. I think we should stop asking for it.

What i do think we should do is draw from experiences of the way AV was or should be and ask for a new battle ground.

A new 40 vs 40 raid style battle ground. Come up with what you would like to see and suggest it.

Could be something like, 40 Alliance and 40 Horde players are trying to recapture a lost Pandarian Temple. Each side has to establish a foot hold and try to hold the other faction off. At the same time, they have to try to capture the temple and defeat a raid style boss before the other side does it.

Design an old AV style battle around a new story.
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90 Orc Hunter
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I dont think they will make a classic AV. I think we should stop asking for it.

What i do think we should do is draw from experiences of the way AV was or should be and ask for a new battle ground.

A new 40 vs 40 raid style battle ground. Come up with what you would like to see and suggest it.

Could be something like, 40 Alliance and 40 Horde players are trying to recapture a lost Pandarian Temple. Each side has to establish a foot hold and try to hold the other faction off. At the same time, they have to try to capture the temple and defeat a raid style boss before the other side does it.

Design an old AV style battle around a new story.


Last time they did this they made IoC.

>.<
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
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I dont think they will make a classic AV. I think we should stop asking for it.



Which is why I'm not gonna resub.They've destroyed everything I love about the game and they continue to o so with every expansion.
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90 Night Elf Druid
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11/08/2011 02:37 AMPosted by Hackur
Deathknights has effectively killed turtle defense cos how can you turtle when a squad of them pulls your defenders away 1 by 1?


I just imagined 40 death knights surrounding another 40 players and all of them death griping at once lol.
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86 Night Elf Druid
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This instance

Shouldn't that be battleground?
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100 Blood Elf Mage
16715
Last time they did this they made IoC.

>.<


I am hoping that if Blizzard were to take something like my suggestion seriously, they would not fall into the trap of making a “same old – same old” battle ground. Hopefully they would try to make classic AV without actually being Classic AV.

One thing they could do is take the AV summoned champion elemental NPC. I think a lot of people have happy memories of having helped summoned it; even more have no memory of there even being a summon-able NPC in AV.

I picture the temple being on the top of a mountain. Somewhere half way down the mountain there would be a cave with some Pandarin Monks in it. They collect jade figurines that can be collected off enemy players as well as some NPCs and Mobs found throughout the battleground. When a side collects enough jade, the monks will side with them and summon a Giant Jade NPC. This NPC could be required to break down the Main doors of the temple complex allowing the sided faction a time advantage in reaching the end boss first.
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90 Blood Elf Death Knight
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I love AV. It's my favourite battleground. Leave it alone please.
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85 Dwarf Mage
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I don't miss the 17 hour AVS.

What I do miss is Ice Lord Lokholar trampling down the fields making mince meat out of players -- packs of frost wolf riders razing havoc on others -- those pesky war riders bombarding the fields with bombs and alike.

These need to be implemented again in some form or another.


Agreed,

although 24+ hours AV were the most EPIC battles I have seen in WoW, it wouldn't work well in today's setting.
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85 Human Mage
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11/24/2011 10:07 AMPosted by Asalenia
Shouldn't that be battleground?


Battlegrounds are instanced.

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"A 'Brief' History of AV, Part II"
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3595342746
"Why Isn't AV Fun Anymore?"
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2743697818
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85 Human Mage
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11/24/2011 11:51 AMPosted by Jazzan
I love AV. It's my favourite battleground. Leave it alone please.


That's what we said before Blizzard gutted it.



Bitterness aside, they could make two versions of AV: A modern and a classic.

_________________________________________________________________________
"A 'Brief' History of AV, Part II"
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3595342746
"Why Isn't AV Fun Anymore?"
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2743697818
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85 Human Mage
0
Agreed,

although 24+ hours AV were the most EPIC battles I have seen in WoW, it wouldn't work well in today's setting.


2 to 4 hours is a good length though. With AV off the random queue nobody needs to do it.

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"A Treatise on Bluetip Threshers"
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3424907465
"A 'Brief' History of AV, Part I"
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2952885503
"A 'Brief' History of AV, Part II"
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3595342746
"Why Isn't AV Fun Anymore?"
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2743697818
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85 Human Mage
0
11/24/2011 09:04 AMPosted by Goblitt
What i do think we should do is draw from experiences of the way AV was or should be and ask for a new battle ground.


As someone mentioned, that's how we got the "epic" and "robust" Isle of Wallquest.

They need to fix the battlegrounds we have before adding new (potentially also broken) battlegrounds to the mix.

_________________________________________________________________________
"A 'Brief' History of AV, Part II"
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3595342746
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37 Blood Elf Rogue
8490
If they get back to the old AV almost no one would go there. Time is money friend and 4+ hours of no rewards is a no no.
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85 Tauren Paladin
7685
11/07/2011 10:59 PMPosted by Duskwhisper
one particular AV i was lasted 17 hours


This isn't a good thing. Trust me on this.

You may be thinking it was a good thing back in the day, but why would one want to waste so much time on a stalemate?

Because some of us like the objective based attrition maps. Currently all we have are "Fast Food BGs: 20 minutes or less, or your money back!" AV is the only real exception to this, but even in its current state, you're consider "going against the team" if you try to force PvP or "turtle". The one map that is supposed to be long has been gutted so much it's not even the same BG anymore. The only relation it has to the real AV is the name and the same basic layout. What they did to AV would be like putting the flags in WSG two feet apart with instant respawn timers for the flags.
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90 Orc Hunter
9465
11/28/2011 04:26 AMPosted by Sectumsempra
If they get back to the old AV almost no one would go there. Time is money friend and 4+ hours of no rewards is a no no.


ever heard of xp off bgs?
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85 Tauren Paladin
7685
11/28/2011 04:26 AMPosted by Sectumsempra
If they get back to the old AV almost no one would go there. Time is money friend and 4+ hours of no rewards is a no no.

So many people, Blizzard included apparently, are under the delusion that you can't have a long match AND rewards. We already receive honor for capping towers/bunkers. Change the amount gained and add periodic rewards for honor. Add honor rewards to upgrading the guards, sending out the wolf/ram riders, summoning the Ice Lord or the Tree. There's plenty of ways to make it worth it, it just requires using your brain.
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37 Blood Elf Rogue
8490
11/28/2011 04:30 AMPosted by Vaelkyri
If they get back to the old AV almost no one would go there. Time is money friend and 4+ hours of no rewards is a no no.


ever heard of xp off bgs?

Yes, they're dead.
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85 Tauren Paladin
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11/28/2011 04:32 AMPosted by Sectumsempra


ever heard of xp off bgs?

Yes, they're dead.

You don't visit the PvP forums very often. There are several large groups at various levels that are far from dead. And by large groups, I'm talking about enough people to actually create less than two minute queues on several days of the week.
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