Topic bullies in trade using ToU as ammo
Nachtinis
Dalaran
Nachtinis
85 Worgen Rogue
8990
11/11/2011 11:09 AMPosted by Solaru
Heck, its not part of the TOU but players are also encouraged to "out" ninjas or unfair players publicly on their servers as well!

Um..no. This can be considered harassment.

Nope, in fact in the past blues have posted in "ninja" reporting threads telling folks to take their reports to their respective realm forums.

Yes outing a ninja player is totally supported on realm forums and in your realm's chat on the server.

However, as i stated already, you musnt break the TOU when doing these reports.

Harassment is also looked at and judged by the GMs.

Usually just outing someone matter of factly without any ire or maliciousness to that person is totally within the rules, its when you add insults, and repeated spamming, etc, that it usually becomes "harassment".

Report,ignore,move on.
Nachtinis
Dalaran
Nachtinis
85 Worgen Rogue
8990
Edited by Nachtinis on 11/11/11 11:32 AM (PST)
11/11/2011 11:12 AMPosted by Amberlynh
Even if someone is breaking the ToU, the OP's point is that it is ALSO harassment to publicly announce that you're going to report someone and say things like "You only get to play because I allow it".


You can sincerely tell someone that they are breaking the TOU and are getting reported and leave it at that and be TOTALLY IN THE CLEAR.

But yea, like i already stated, when you cross the line and break the TOU yourself while reporting other players, you yourself stand a good chance of getting reported as well.

EDIT:
Oh as i recall they do look seriously into players who simply use the "ive reported you" as a form of intimidation to other players. This is typically seen as such due to the fact that telling someone they are being reported when they in fact were not reported is seen as harassment.

If that is in fact what OP is talking about, then yes thats also harassment.

But as i have posted already, if you think you are being harassed, report that person, ignore that person, and move on.
Breia
Khadgar
Breia
90 Gnome Warlock
4940
11/10/2011 07:18 AMPosted by Manßearpig
if you want to report some 1 do it.


I don't think I've ever run into the sort of thing you're talking about. If I'm watching or using the trade channel and stuff gets offensive and abusive I don't say a word to anyone about it, I just report.

And it's not that I want to report a guy for swearing over and over and over in trade. I don't have any desire to see his account actioned, I just want him gone... but with our ignore list limited and trade garbage so prolific, reporting players is really the best option.
Untasteful
Darkspear
Untasteful
85 Troll Mage
8500
Disliked and reported for the hell of it
Solaru
Silver Hand
Solaru
90 Draenei Mage
7565
11/11/2011 11:25 AMPosted by Nachtinis
Nope, in fact in the past blues have posted in "ninja" reporting threads telling folks to take their reports to their respective realm forums.

The operative word is "can".
Duckofdeath
Staghelm
Duckofdeath
90 Blood Elf Paladin
11160
Here's an idea. Dont break the ToU and no one can harrass you with threatening to report you.
Disciplin
Mal'Ganis
Disciplin
76 Troll Priest
800
Internet bullies ...

What power do they really have? The ability to CAPS LOCK you to death? Seriously?

If you're getting upset by what people say in a video game, a chat room, some peer to peer network, or anything that allows people to HIDE behind a computer and spew forth senseless banter, then I suggest you not participate in any of these types of entertainment.

In other words, quit taking this crap so personally ... it's no more real than the pixels you're killing to get pixel money.
Interdictor
Kargath
Interdictor
90 Troll Rogue
TBT
14485
Ignore the person harassing.

If they constantly start creating new characters just to harass you, report them to a GM.
Anklegrip
Whisperwind
Anklegrip
85 Gnome Death Knight
9510
You understand that this type of thread is against forum policy. If you don't delete the post I will report you and have it done for you.

In other news; you mentioned in the end that if you are going to report someone just do it. The people that cry REPORTED don't actually report anyone dude. If they did it would auto ignore that player and you wouldn't see them responding to every reply.

Oktag
Wyrmrest Accord
Oktag
90 Orc Mage
5610
The best part about this thread is that I can say...

I have Trade Chat turned off...everywhere!






Aaronierro
Scarlet Crusade
Aaronierro
90 Human Death Knight
6970
Were they just threatening you with a report or did you do something to earn that report? If they had no reason to report you, then report them for harassment. However, if you were doing something worth reporting, then the system is working as intended.
Milsa
Proudmoore
Milsa
85 Draenei Paladin
2225
The OP is like:

(╯°□°)╯ - Come fellow WoW players! Listen to my tale of trade chat trolls on my realm threatening each other with bans they cannot give and harassing each other using the ToU to mask their harassment!

And everyone is all like:

(╯°Д°)╯︵┻━┻ - WELL YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BROKEN THE RULES OP!!!

And I'm all like:

┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ) - Dude...you guys...he wasn't talking about himself getting reported for doing something wrong. He's talking about people on his server using the ToU to harass other people that THEY feel are breaking the ToU. Even if someone is breaking the ToU, the OP's point is that it is ALSO harassment to publicly announce that you're going to report
someone and say things like "You only get to play because I allow it".
So much win with this. This population is so quick to rip someone's head off. Sheesh.
Tahuma
Frostmane
Tahuma
85 Tauren Druid
8880
I like the table flipping analogy. ignore players who consistently try to bully you into thinking your account will be banned. Easy. If their goal is to hurt your fun, ignore them
Support Forum Agent
By far the easiest resolution of this is /ignore. Really, that's what it's there for.

Idle threats are just that. As long as no rules have actually been violated, a player could get reported every day of the week, twice on Sunday and they'll never even know because the report would be found to be unsubstantiated. We only contact a player if a report has been confirmed as true and it violates a rule.
Arctous
Lightbringer
Arctous
85 Human Death Knight
9270
Examples of WoW rules being used as harassment way would be...what? Just confused.
Gamis
Proudmoore
Gamis
1 Orc Shaman
0
Edited by Gamis on 11/11/11 12:24 PM (PST)
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Amberlynh
Khaz'goroth
Amberlynh
85 Night Elf Hunter
5005
11/11/2011 11:28 AMPosted by Nachtinis
Even if someone is breaking the ToU, the OP's point is that it is ALSO harassment to publicly announce that you're going to report someone and say things like "You only get to play because I allow it".


You can sincerely tell someone that they are breaking the TOU and are getting reported and leave it at that and be TOTALLY IN THE CLEAR.

But yea, like i already stated, when you cross the line and break the TOU yourself while reporting other players, you yourself stand a good chance of getting reported as well.

EDIT:
Oh as i recall they do look seriously into players who simply use the "ive reported you" as a form of intimidation to other players. This is typically seen as such due to the fact that telling someone they are being reported when they in fact were not reported is seen as harassment.

If that is in fact what OP is talking about, then yes thats also harassment.

But as i have posted already, if you think you are being harassed, report that person, ignore that person, and move on.


And I'm all like:

(╯°□°)╯- dude chill out everyone. I'm just explaining what the OP meant. I didn't say I was agreeing or disagreeing.


And then you're all like:

(╯°Д°)╯︵/(.□ . \) - ʇno ןןıɥɔ ǝpnp


And then Orlyia is like:

ノ(° -°ノ) - C'mon guys. This is all very silly. Put 'em on ignore and call it a day.








The OP is like:

(╯°□°)╯ - Come fellow WoW players! Listen to my tale of trade chat trolls on my realm threatening each other with bans they cannot give and harassing each other using the ToU to mask their harassment!

And everyone is all like:

(╯°Д°)╯︵┻━┻ - WELL YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BROKEN THE RULES OP!!!

And I'm all like:

┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ) - Dude...you guys...he wasn't talking about himself getting reported for doing something wrong. He's talking about people on his server using the ToU to harass other people that THEY feel are breaking the ToU. Even if someone is breaking the ToU, the OP's point is that it is ALSO harassment to publicly announce that you're going to report
someone and say things like "You only get to play because I allow it".
So much win with this. This population is so quick to rip someone's head off. Sheesh.


See...you get me.

/hug

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