4.3 Battleground Conquest Rewards

85 Blood Elf Rogue
3185
I personally don't agree with this change. Arena gear is arena gear and honor gear is honor gear, and now we'll just be making that conquest gear a bazillion times easier to get? Maybe I'm only upset because of all the time and effort that went into getting my arena gear the regular way. Through arenas. Which if you get high enough in rating due to your skills can make winning some matches pretty dang hard. With this change it just feels as if the arena players and rated bg players work has been wasted. Just my little opinion. Don't kill me for it.
89 Blood Elf Mage
11600
I am by no means a hardcore arena/RBG player, but this announcement disappoints me more than anything. I busted my tail assembling my resilience gear between raids in a guild that doesn't run RBGs. Making that easier should make me happy, but it doesn't.
90 Human Paladin
13355
11/19/2011 07:40 AMPosted by Natalana


below average players are already getting the best gear in low rated pvp, so nothing is actually going to change in terms of how skilled the geared players are


Yeah I'll get flamed I'm sure but it has to be said.

Check out the poster you quoted who is disappointed that below average players can get nice gear.

Hasn't broke 1500 in 2s yet.

Once again proving that the people who scream the loudest about changes like this are usually those just squeaking by in the current system.


Yeah big deal, I haven't hit 1500 in 2's. So I guess that makes me an awful player right? Or maybe because I never really tried, because I'm pretty sure people get carried to 2200 all the time... You're also posting on your level 16 druid... so who are you to have an opinion what I haven't done.

And wouldn't you think I would be an advocate for the change because it would make gearing incredibly easier??? I'm not.. it's a crap change and I hope it gets rethought.
5 Troll Warrior
0
In patch 4.3 we’re changing the daily battleground (BG) to reward 100 conquest for a win (up from 25). In addition, every non-rated BG that you win will also give you 50 conquest. There is no limit to how many BGs you can run this way, up to the normal conquest cap.

Our intent is to start acting even more on our Mists of Pandaria philosophies of encouraging players to approach the content they want to, how they want to, and be able to work toward meaningful player progression. Arenas and rated battlegrounds will still earn Conquest faster, but with this change you can now work your way up by running normal BGs, if you so choose.

Awesome change. Any chance you guys could make playing/winning battlegrounds reward a reasonable amount of guild XP? My guild consists of me and some friends who just like to team up and play battlegrounds together, but it's depressing that we don't level up our guild at all by doing so. I know when you guys first talked about guild leveling while Cataclysm was in development, you stated that pretty much any form of playing the game would contribute to leveling up the guild. It's sad that this didn't turn out to be the case.

Thanks.
5 Troll Warrior
0
11/19/2011 01:52 PMPosted by Pwnytailz
I personally don't agree with this change. Arena gear is arena gear and honor gear is honor gear, and now we'll just be making that conquest gear a bazillion times easier to get?


Grinding 1350 Conq at 180/win in 2v2 is a joke.

Grinding 1350 Conq in normal BGs at 50 Con/win with 100 per daily will be much harder, so your argument doesn't fly.

Owned by a gnome.
90 Human Paladin
13355
11/19/2011 01:52 PMPosted by Pwnytailz
I personally don't agree with this change. Arena gear is arena gear and honor gear is honor gear, and now we'll just be making that conquest gear a bazillion times easier to get?


Grinding 1350 Conq at 180/win in 2v2 is a joke.

Grinding 1350 Conq in normal BGs at 50 Con/win with 100 per daily will be much harder, so your argument doesn't fly.


His argument does "fly". Currently the max conquest points earned by random BG's is 175 per week. In 4.3 they've bumped that to 1350.

So for those who don't do arenas or RBG's, it makes getting conquest gear 750% easier.
85 Blood Elf Paladin
9330
I'm imagining it's been said already. Along with this change needs to come the change that was made to the LFD tool so that people can do 7 bg's in one day and get the points they want. Otherwise the access to PVP becomes steeper than that of Dungeons and Raids.
16 Troll Druid
13565


Yeah I'll get flamed I'm sure but it has to be said.

Check out the poster you quoted who is disappointed that below average players can get nice gear.

Hasn't broke 1500 in 2s yet.

Once again proving that the people who scream the loudest about changes like this are usually those just squeaking by in the current system.


Yeah big deal, I haven't hit 1500 in 2's. So I guess that makes me an awful player right? Or maybe because I never really tried, because I'm pretty sure people get carried to 2200 all the time... You're also posting on your level 16 druid... so who are you to have an opinion what I haven't done.

And wouldn't you think I would be an advocate for the change because it would make gearing incredibly easier??? I'm not.. it's a crap change and I hope it gets rethought.


Just pointing out the hypocrisy of a fail 2s player making a comment stating their dislike of the change because it will let below average players get nice gear, even going so far as to state 2200 as the cut off for good players.

It's kind of cute, like the posters who were complaining about the nerfs to Firelands bosses yet had never killed anything in T11, much less anything in Firelands.
16 Troll Druid
13565
11/19/2011 02:12 PMPosted by Banxy


Grinding 1350 Conq at 180/win in 2v2 is a joke.

Grinding 1350 Conq in normal BGs at 50 Con/win with 100 per daily will be much harder, so your argument doesn't fly.


His argument does "fly". Currently the max conquest points earned by random BG's is 175 per week. In 4.3 they've bumped that to 1350.

So for those who don't do arenas or RBG's, it makes getting conquest gear 750% easier.


Even the bad players have figured out how to spam /2 with 'FLM 2s for points' to cap their weekly conquest. Or did you think that was some big secret that only the 'real' PVP players knew?

Running 2s each week will still be more efficient than running randoms. And if you can get your rating up, you can increase the amount of conquest you earn each week and get geared faster.

The only possible downside to this change is that people botting normal BGs will now get conquest gear, but as someone else stated, how often do you lose to a bot in a BG?
85 Troll Mage
8180
Yeah big deal, I haven't hit 1500 in 2's. So I guess that makes me an awful player right? Or maybe because I never really tried.

And wouldn't you think I would be an advocate for the change because it would make gearing incredibly easier??? I'm not.. it's a crap change and I hope it gets rethought.


Why have you never tried for 2200? Can't beat players on your own gear level?

Only bads prefer their stat/gear advantage in pvp. You don't think everyone deserves free gear? I don't think you deserve free wins because of your gear.

Real competitors appreciate a level playing field.
85 Draenei Mage
4010
This is a most excellent change!!!
85 Tauren Paladin
9985
Wait wait wait wait..... PvPers complain about people being in pve gear in BGs, now the BGers can get pvp gear faster, and theres crying about it? 6.9 im so confuzzled.
90 Human Paladin
13355
Yeah big deal, I haven't hit 1500 in 2's. So I guess that makes me an awful player right? Or maybe because I never really tried.

And wouldn't you think I would be an advocate for the change because it would make gearing incredibly easier??? I'm not.. it's a crap change and I hope it gets rethought.


Why have you never tried for 2200? Can't beat players on your own gear level?

Only bads prefer their stat/gear advantage in pvp. You don't think everyone deserves free gear? I don't think you deserve free wins because of your gear.

Real competitors appreciate a level playing field.


I haven't tried, because I have dedicated any time to. And assuming I can't beat players of equal gear is hilarious. I'm just stating they have appealed to the masses and are making gear way to accessible. I don't agree with that.
100 Human Mage
14340
How about raising the amount of rep for BGs too!
100 Tauren Paladin
18000
11/19/2011 08:16 AMPosted by Saricc



you say that as if your so bad at this game you cant kill a bot


Good one idiot. Because its fair that fat nerds can AFK and do nothing while getting the best gear while players who actually deserve the gear (Doing Arena or RBGs) are spending time getting points. Get lost geek.
90 Human Mage
9835
Been waiting for this (PvP) change since TBC. Well done blizz. Keep it up. Little slow though.
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