Disc t13 bonus bugged, hotfix asap

32 Gnome Mage
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Disc 2 piece bonus is giving 10 sec buff, should be giving 23 sec buff per recent hotfixes. Hotfix again asap.
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85 Undead Priest
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That is working as intended. The tooltip might be wrong now, but the idea is for Disc to get 10 seconds of reduced mana cost casting available every 2 minutes while Holy gets 15 seconds (after they're done channeling) available every 3 minutes.
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32 Gnome Mage
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hotfixes says 23 seconds

btw it isnt even usable as disc since power word shield is apparently not considered a healing spell so it doesnt benefit from the mana cost reduction
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32 Gnome Mage
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10 sec buff and doesnt affect pw:s

pretty sure that makes t13 a sidegrade from t12 since you lose the mp5 from t12 2 set
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90 Night Elf Druid
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dont worry they will fix it in 5.0. dont expect any changes anytime soon
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
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12/07/2011 06:49 AMPosted by Jancy
10 sec buff and doesnt affect pw:s


This might be a bug, but if you're casting anything besides PW:S (and most, if not all Disc Priests are), then the mana reduction is already working just fine.

(edit: Also, it is intended for Disc to get 10 seconds and Holy to get 23 seconds, due to the spell Holy uses to trigger this taking 8 seconds to finish before they can cast other things.)
Edited by Ashtastic on 12/7/2011 7:05 AM PST
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14 Gnome Mage
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Not affecting shields is a bug, but the clear intent (if you followed the tooltip changes on the ptr) is for disc to get 10 usable seconds and holy to get 15 (every 2 minutes and 3 minutes respectively).

It would be completely stupid to have the disc bonus be substantially longer than holy's while on a shorter cooldown.
Edited by Mouthwash on 12/7/2011 9:31 AM PST
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Community Manager
I apologize for the typo. The hotfix should (and now does) read:

"The priest tier-13 two-piece set bonus should again trigger a 23-second Temporal Boon for non-Discipline priests, up from 20 seconds."

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/4023884/Patch_43_Hotfixes-12_6_2011#blog

Power Infusion continues to get a duration of 10 seconds on Temporal Boon, as intended.
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100 Night Elf Druid
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non-Discipline priests

ROFL

They still can't bring themselves to say Holy can they :p
Edited by Keiyra on 12/7/2011 12:08 PM PST
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100 Human Priest
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ROFL

They still can't bring themselves to say Holy can they :p
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90 Undead Priest
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10 sec buff and doesnt affect pw:s

pretty sure that makes t13 a sidegrade from t12 since you lose the mp5 from t12 2 set


Even if this is the case, wouldn't the two extra sockets you receive from both pieces + what part of the bonus you can use be better than the small amount of mana regen you get?

The tier 12 2pc bonus you are referring to is based off of base mana which is around 7540. This means the 2pc bonus regens 150.8 mana every 5 seconds (while the buff is active).

Now granted I'm not good at the actual math part of these formulas, but something tells me for instance a piece like this would still be an upgrade.

Robes of the Cleansing Flame -> Robes of Dying Light

Going from a heroic T12 piece to a Raid Finder T13 piece would still net you a 21 gain in intellect which would give you regen to start with, plus mana from replenishment and more mana from rapture on top of increasing your heals. Sure, you lose 15 spirit but it wouldn't be missed at all. The only that would be missed is the 50 mastery rating which is made up from bigger heals.

Now granted my quick napkin math would look even better if it was an actual T13 Normal/Heroic piece or if the T12 was normal, but the OP is posting on an alt so I don't know if they have heroic gear or if they are doing raid finder only.
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12/07/2011 11:50 AMPosted by Keiyra
non-Discipline priests

ROFL

They still can't bring themselves to say Holy can they :p


To be fair, Shadow could technically benefit from it because Divine Hymn is baseline. It didn't make sense when they said "non-Discipline" way back when it was Lightwell that it affected, but now that it's Divine Hymn, specifying non-Discipline makes more sense.
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100 Human Mage
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12/07/2011 01:18 PMPosted by Flintte

ROFL

They still can't bring themselves to say Holy can they :p


To be fair, Shadow could technically benefit from it because Divine Hymn is baseline. It didn't make sense when they said "non-Discipline" way back when it was Lightwell that it affected, but now that it's Divine Hymn, specifying non-Discipline makes more sense.


Thanks. That was far more insightful that the quoting-herd-of-sheep above you. v_v'
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86 Blood Elf Rogue
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12/07/2011 11:50 AMPosted by Keiyra
non-Discipline priests

ROFL

They still can't bring themselves to say Holy can they :p
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90 Draenei Priest
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12/07/2011 12:41 PMPosted by Aceso
Even if this is the case, wouldn't the two extra sockets you receive from both pieces + what part of the bonus you can use be better than the small amount of mana regen you get?

It's the 4pc T12 people want to hold onto - not the 2pc. 4pc is like a 900-1k HPS increase.

Btw if the mana reduc doesn't affect PW:S this is pretty TERRIBLE. Power Infusion is best used in times of shield spam.
And yes, PW:S spam can and should happen by any Disc priest worth their salt.

Fix this.
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85 Draenei Shaman
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ROFL

They still can't bring themselves to say Holy can they :p
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32 Gnome Mage
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confirmed, mana cost reduction does not apply to power word: shield
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32 Gnome Mage
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10 sec buff and doesnt affect pw:s

pretty sure that makes t13 a sidegrade from t12 since you lose the mp5 from t12 2 set


Even if this is the case, wouldn't the two extra sockets you receive from both pieces + what part of the bonus you can use be better than the small amount of mana regen you get?

The tier 12 2pc bonus you are referring to is based off of base mana which is around 7540. This means the 2pc bonus regens 150.8 mana every 5 seconds (while the buff is active).

Now granted I'm not good at the actual math part of these formulas, but something tells me for instance a piece like this would still be an upgrade.

Robes of the Cleansing Flame -> Robes of Dying Light

Going from a heroic T12 piece to a Raid Finder T13 piece would still net you a 21 gain in intellect which would give you regen to start with, plus mana from replenishment and more mana from rapture on top of increasing your heals. Sure, you lose 15 spirit but it wouldn't be missed at all. The only that would be missed is the 50 mastery rating which is made up from bigger heals.

Now granted my quick napkin math would look even better if it was an actual T13 Normal/Heroic piece or if the T12 was normal, but the OP is posting on an alt so I don't know if they have heroic gear or if they are doing raid finder only.


false, base mana is a bit over 20k, so t12 2 piece is a bit over 400 mp5

so going from t12 to t13 is actually a sidegrade as you lose 400 mp5 for basically no benefit from t13 2 piece, and lose 1k hps from t12 4 piece for 10% on pw:s which is like maybe 4% healing
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100 Pandaren Priest
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The name of our spec is HOLY. H--O--L--Y

Can you please stop disrespecting your player base? Calling us non-Discipline is not funny, nor is it cute. If you need to say "Holy & Shadow" then say it.

Elune forbid you make the most simple change possible to allow your coustomers feel respected.
Edited by Daitoku on 12/10/2011 8:55 AM PST
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