Topic 4.3 Fire Mage PvP and buffs, Interested?
Spy
Illidan
Spy
85 Blood Elf Rogue
5450
Edited by Spy on 1/4/12 12:53 PM (PST)
Great video! I just started to begin 1v1's on my fire mage. Although they really don't matter, I was curious which class do you think counters a fire mage 1v1 and how do you recommend I play verse that class? Appreciate your help :)
Hansol
Darkspear
Hansol
90 Human Mage
8020
01/04/2012 12:53 PMPosted by Spy
Great video! I just started to begin 1v1's on my fire mage. Although they really don't matter, I was curious which class do you think counters a fire mage 1v1 and how do you recommend I play verse that class? Appreciate your help :)


Glad you enjoyed! Fire Mages are very good at 1v1 and it's what I'm specialized into oppose to arenas and such because not many people want to play with Fire Mages and rather go with Frost. There are only a couple classes that counter Fire which i'd say are good Hunters and good Spriests whom will dispel your Combust if they get a chance which gives them the advantage. I can't go in-depth on strategies on how to defeat them but one day I will cover a video on all classes, but in the mean time good luck! Sorry I cannot help you at the moment
Moreplay
Malfurion
Moreplay
85 Human Rogue
4660
Edited by Moreplay on 1/4/12 9:20 PM (PST)
Awesome video man! I'm in the process of leveling a mage (only 69) but I was floored at what a great fire mage could do. It seems the play style of a fire mage is to be very aggressive and get in ppls' faces. The music was also very well done and fit the video perfectly. I subbed to your youtube channel. Keep the videos coming man, because they are awesome. I rarely get excited about PvP videos nemore but your vids are pretty sweet.
Unholymuffin
Stormreaver
Unholymuffin
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
1010
I support this thread.

Better Fire than Frost.
Moshix
Skullcrusher
Moshix
80 Orc Death Knight
2905
You cast scorch alot ;o i'm suprised that we're in a PvE forum and people aren't telling you about all the damage you're missing out by not bunkering down and casting your hardest hitting spell when you aren't getting hit.
Indïanabones
Dunemaul
Indïanabones
80 Undead Mage
4825
The rogue you dueled was not very good.
Entertaining video, however.
Hansol
Darkspear
Hansol
90 Human Mage
8020
01/05/2012 07:38 AMPosted by Moshix
You cast scorch alot ;o i'm suprised that we're in a PvE forum and people aren't telling you about all the damage you're missing out by not bunkering down and casting your hardest hitting spell when you aren't getting hit.


Well in PvP situations as Fire, you shouldn't be hard casting Fireball or Pyroblast. Expecially in arena.
Incinerater
Firetree
Incinerater
85 Undead Mage
8130
So you don't bother with Fireball even when your target is locked down on killing someone else and you're a good 30+ yards away? I use Fireball when I don't need to move. Scorch's damage makes me rage when I'm hitting 4500+ resilience targets.
Hansol
Darkspear
Hansol
90 Human Mage
8020
So you don't bother with Fireball even when your target is locked down on killing someone else and you're a good 30+ yards away? I use Fireball when I don't need to move. Scorch's damage makes me rage when I'm hitting 4500+ resilience targets.


I meant you shouldn't be hard casting anything other than Scorch most of the time, but if your target is disoriented and you know you have a free cast, by all means go ahead and get off a FB, FFB, or Pyro. If you saw the video you would know instead of having to ask on this thread. Please post on thread after watching the video, or if your not interested, this thread is not for you. Sorry but your question would have easily been answered if you watched. Scorch dmg is extremely good if you're using it effectively with shatter combos. If you fishing for Hot Streaks and just spamming it, ofc you will be doing no dmg which causes YOU to rage. I am perfectly comfortable with casting Scorch when used efficiently. This is just my opinion of course. Thanks for your reply. Good luck! :)
Yavanoa
Lightbringer
Yavanoa
85 Blood Elf Mage
4260
Great video! Full of great information to help nubs like myself. I would be interested in seeing some macros you use for fire pvp. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Incinerater
Firetree
Incinerater
85 Undead Mage
8130
01/06/2012 06:26 AMPosted by Hansol
So you don't bother with Fireball even when your target is locked down on killing someone else and you're a good 30+ yards away? I use Fireball when I don't need to move. Scorch's damage makes me rage when I'm hitting 4500+ resilience targets.


I meant you shouldn't be hard casting anything other than Scorch most of the time, but if your target is disoriented and you know you have a free cast, by all means go ahead and get off a FB, FFB, or Pyro. If you saw the video you would know instead of having to ask on this thread. Please post on thread after watching the video, or if your not interested, this thread is not for you. Sorry but your question would have easily been answered if you watched. Scorch dmg is extremely good if you're using it effectively with shatter combos. If you fishing for Hot Streaks and just spamming it, ofc you will be doing no dmg which causes YOU to rage. I am perfectly comfortable with casting Scorch when used efficiently. This is just my opinion of course. Thanks for your reply. Good luck! :)


I did watch your video, but I was asking you that in relation to your post above mine. No need to get snooty.
Hansol
Darkspear
Hansol
90 Human Mage
8020
01/06/2012 02:16 PMPosted by Happymuslim
Hi. I have played fire up to 2.2k already this season while this guy is struggling getting 2.2k even as frost (ive gotten 2.4k twice this season as that easy dumb spec). I will tell you that he is wrong and that you should cast fireball as much as possible. As stated in the posts before, he is rolling noobs and cannot compete at the competetive level.


Lol I don't play Frost. I don't struggle, I just don't do arenas much. I'm going to get into arenas this season.
Fearthefire
Antonidas
Fearthefire
85 Blood Elf Mage
9190
Yeah, I'm noticing more people are going fire. The funny thing is I've always been a fire mage and I can say I've pretty much mastered it.

I now just help out others that could use some tips.

Also kind of shocked how everyone jumped to fire.
Hornyheifer
Exodar
Hornyheifer
85 Tauren Shaman
1750
you attempted to apply constructive criticism and lace it with obvious jealous rage. rare fine indeed.

I don't understand the rage though, Hansol is a humble guy who makes nice videos and isn't elitist. he doesn't claim to be anything he isn't. and considering he's now 2,200 your claim at him being a 2k mage isn't viable. gg.
Synisa
Sargeras
Synisa
85 Night Elf Druid
14605
That Hansol is SO hot right now. Hansol.
Ragequitz
Aggramar
Ragequitz
85 Dwarf Mage
2710
This don't pertain to fire pvp (though I did enjoy the video it was very nice :D) but I have noticed a rise in fire mages since 4.3 but I've been fire since the start of cata (I pve fire) arcane Mage in my guild always beats me though :(
Wreckalesce
Gul'dan
Wreckalesce
85 Goblin Mage
1450
Hey you gotta have a hater right? The forums are filled with PvE greasers that have no idea about the more challenging part of the game. Yes, you know how to spread your combustion effectively and you have the occasional db -> ring, but your play isn't far over the mediocre mark.

You're just kind of rolling noobs in bgs. Where is the zomg vurtne/noone playstyle that made me literally ;O in rl?

You cast scorch WAY to much, use blastwave for damage as opposed to kiting (go back and watch some of your clips), and never focus impact. Furthermore, you tend to either not use your MI's or use them incorrectly and you often times blink yourself into retarded spots that leaves you open for anal %@*@#@.

Your definitely not BAD but you don't capitalize on your opponents mistakes (shattering off a ring in the warr/rogue duel (who runs through a ring..)) You're 2k at best sorry =/. Nice video tho it was a good break from this droll environment at work.


Even though I agree with most of what you said, I think he was using the blast waves less for damage and more to fish for an impact proc. Just sayin

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