Retribution (6.0.3) - Do you even Inq, bro?

(Sticky)

90 Human Paladin
9400
Honest Question, How does my pally Look, i mean 2 days lvl 90, i lvled it during Cata and such so it's not my main but I was pretty Good in cata, now things are obviously different, Does it Look ok? despite the fact i've done All 16 Bosess in LFR and Gotten nothing since hittin 90.
Reply Quote
90 Dwarf Paladin
12730
Touch low on hit and expertise - you using the Robot? Set it to Force Caps, or just stop using it; ReforgeLite addon is better, anyway.
Reply Quote
90 Gnome Warrior
14940
I have a holy paladin alt that obviously switches to ret for dailies. To simplify things I create a weak auras group to tell me what dps ability to hit first in my rotation. I thought I'd share:

de0rBaWjjvQ6wePu2LirggGCma1YKu1ZePAAerxJizBaGVrKQXre6CaqwNir18isP6Eeb2NKk5GsIfkv9qrsnra0fLuSrIGgPiHtkszLsQuzMsLUPirzNa9taQHkvSuaYtvMQexvKKTkPs5RaqnxIuSx0Fj0GPK6Wu1ILKESGMmL6YqBwaFwkJMsCAvEnrkz2I62eSBk(TqdNOoUKkwoONRQPt66uz7IOVlcJxsPZlq7NsYeyw48SqL75aoLKmLKEkjroboBoBw4QfWbc8OsqPnGsjGaciGLy6adKuscasu6sXfeWbc8OsqPnGLUuCyTYEJnAZEUhZb6epJY1d4sbWPSU1iHfoVT9Px04ZIk8Ane(SqL7S5aeQwzDh4fHNgKZ4ekWR1q4tqG5YrVnlCWygzHtWL1JfQuPYbX2fnLGYixdgDYu5czHGaZcNcVwdHSWbrbU05Ijma2KdYEUq3RrbrlNnYPNaAZ5EeqOa75otse(i75GOaGLrOxJqU6sc4mEb8zHGaZLMPoU7p9IgQu5SVpeIkkcJQxVOHGaXzbVMfLGscehmQEfzpxo6TzHZ9Oyy2)p75GXmYcNGlRhluPY5Eu8LXq2Z5Eummku1RSN7LXqw4(Z0YibtNkxy2)plC)zAzKRtLUvayAGuPYjCqyeYQCqSDrtjOmYDHrdx1mAStzrBKRVBnGaKZhQx08SW9QhQSWzhfB5ycwLRLJjeda9cihag9sRkoO)t5PzQJ7(tVOXkRbyhUwoMq0hQx0W9wIjOYf4m3BHfo7OylhtWQCTCmHOpuVOH7TetqLkN32(0lA8zrfETgcFwiiWSWPWR1qilCAqzKZ7GEoNbtIgLZ70iNCmbcfJYi0RrixDjbCUhfLJjqi75WKOr5srmh0kR7etGqU3vftIgTdedC1YTo10TlNnw1fiqjOmYLIA62rctvxoN5uo5Spic5Cpk6mNYEU3vftIgDUabUA5etDLvexPcGkCgVa(SqqG5a4L8mOvw3XbLJpsLtoMaHCPZf6EnkiA5Sro9eqBQCoJcVwdHSqLkvofRvDqKRG1Qoi(sZKXCUsOEj96fnaojcZ(GV0uty(KFuCod3zZLMPoU7p9IgRSgGD4ca9c4uOx9euICjoB1cbLeiUWyoczHGssqGsjPlfvoJtOaVwdHpbRNdgvVErdbbIZ(E5SpyAHrdxAGLAaKewj11inPLAadoP5LXCwu2N92Nr8m1XD)Px0qLG1ZcNpuVO5zH7vpuzHZok2YXeSkxlhti6d1lA4SC2ixlhtiga6fqoam6LwvCq)NYtZuh39NErJvwdimaeFlu5cCM7TWcNDuSLJjyvUwoMq0hQx0W9wIjOsLtHxRHqw4Ijma2KdYEoJxaFwiiWCPzQJ7(tVOHk3zsIWhzphefaSmc9AeYvxsaN7raHcSNdIcCsMssXf6EnkiA5Sro9eqBQC23hcrffHr1Rx0qqG4SGxZIsqjbIdgvVISNlh92SW5Eumm7)N9CWygzHtWL1JfQu5Cpk(Yyi75CpkggfQ6v2Z9YyilC)zAzKGPtLlm7)NfU)mTmY1Ps3kamnqQu5eoimczvoi2UOPeug5UWOHRAgn2PSOnY13TgqaYD2CPzQJ7(tVOXkRbegaIVfoyu96fneeiofRvDqKRG1Qoi(sZKXCUsOEj96fnaojcZ(GV0uty(KFuCodN32(0lA8zrfETgcFwiiWSWPWR1qilCAqzK7vV6EoNbtIgLZ70iNCmbcfJYi0RrixDjbCUhfLJjqi75WKOr5srmh0kR7etGqU3vftIgTdedC1YTo10Tl37QIjrJoxGaxTCIPUYkIRubqfo3JIoZPSNZzoLto7dIqo5yceYLovoNrHxRHqwOsLkxaOxaNc9QNGsKlXzRwiOKaXzCcf41Ai8jy9CHXCeYcbLKGaLssxkQC23lN9btlmA4sdSudGKWkPUgPjTudyWjnVmMZIY(S3(mINPoU7p9IgQemDw4CgfETgczH7LXCg0lGeuIsvVuaavoi2UOPeug5UWOHZ4ekWR1q4tW05822NErJplQWR1q4ZcbbMfofETgczHtdkJCV6v3Z5mys0OCENg5KJjqOyugHEnc5KajGZ9OOCmbczphMenkxkI5GwzDNyceY9UQys0ODGyGRwU1PMUD5ExvmjA05ce4QLtm1vwrCLkaQWjhtGqoP4CMt5KZ(GiKZ9OOZCk75cDVgfeTC2iNEcOnvoNrHxRHqwOsLG1ZcNcVwdHSWbrbU05ExvmjA05ce4QLtm1vwrCLkaQWftyaSjhK9Cys0OCPa9z1c37QIjrJ2bIbUA5wNA62LZgR6ceOeug5srnD7iHPQlNZCkNC2heHCgVa(SqqG5sZuh39NErdvoikayze61iKRU4CpciuG9CAqzKZ7GEUq3RrbrlNnYPNaAtLZzu41AiKfQuPYL4SvleusG4oBUckiN9W3kRRBi0(cvRSwkUaqVaof6vpbLiNcVwdHSWPbLrUx9Q75WKOr5QeQx0yL1P69vZixO71OGOLZg50taT5Cpk(Yyod6fq2Z9Yyod6fqckrPQxkaGZ9OOZCk75CgmjAuoVtJu5SGxZIsqjbIlh92SW5Eumm7)N9CWygzHtWL1JfQu5Cpk(Yyi75CpkggfQ6v2Z9YyilC)zAzKGPtLlm7)NfU)mTmY1Ps3kamnqQuPsqjzHZzu41AiKfUxgZzqVasqjkv9sbau5Gy7IMsqzK7cJgoJtOaVwdHpbtNtHxRHqw40GYi3RE19Cys0OCvc1lASY6u9(QzKl09Auq0YzJC6jG2CUhfFzmNb9ci75CgmjAuoVtJCUhfDMtzp3lJ5mOxajOeLQEPaaQC(q9IMNfUx9qLfo7OylhtWQCTCmHOpuVOH7TetW1YXeIbGEbKdaJEPvfh0)P80m1XD)Px0yL1aSdvUaN5ElSWzhfB5ycwLRLJje9H6fnCwoBKkvUeNTAHGsce3zZvqb5Sh(wzDDdH2xOAL1aSdxaOxaNc9QNGsKZBBF6fn(SOcVwdHpleeyw4u41AiKfonOmY5DqpNZGjrJY5DAKtoMaHIrze61iKtcKao3JIYXeiK9Cys0OCPiMdAL1DIjqi37QIjrJ2bIbUA5wNA62Ll09Auq0YzJC6jG2CXegaBYbzpNCmbc5KIZ4fWNfccmhaVKNbTY6ooOC8rQCVRkMen6CbcC1YjM6kRiUsfav4Cpk6mNYEoN5uo5Spic5SXQUabkbLrUuut3osyQ6sLZzu41AiKfQujy9SWPWR1qilCquGlDU3vftIgDUabUA5etDLvexPcGkCXegaBYbzphMenkxkqFwTW9UQys0ODGyGRwU1PMUD5SXQUabkbLrUuut3osyQ6Y5mNYjN9briNXlGpleeyU0m1XD)Px0qLdIcawgHEnc5Qlo3JacfypNgug58oONl09Auq0YzJC6jG2u5CgfETgczHkvQCwWRzrjOKaXLJEBw4CpkgM9)ZEoymJSWj4Y6XcvQCUhfFzmK9CUhfdJcv9k75EzmKfU)mTmsW0PYfM9)Zc3FMwg56uPBfaMgivQujOuSW5mk8AneYc3lJ5mOxajiWaljWsjDQCqSDrtjOmYDHrdNXjuGxRHWNGaZPWR1qilCAqzK7vV6EomjAuUkH6fnwzDQEF1mYf6EnkiA5Sro9eqBo3JIVmMZGEbK9CodMenkN3Pro3JIoZPSN7LXCg0lGeeyGLeyPKovUeNTAHGsce3zZvtTyOtVOXkRhAu0eICbGEbCk0REckDoVT9Px04ZIk8Ane(SqLZcEnlkbLeiUC0BZcN7rXWS)F2ZbJzKfobxwpwOsLZ9O4lJHSNZ9OyyuOQxzp3lJHSW9NPLrcMovUWS)Fw4(Z0YixNkDRaW0aPsLkbbaw4CgfETgczH7LXCg0lGeSEjRx6srLdITlAkbLrUlmA4moHc8Ane(eeyoVT9Px04ZIk8Ane(SqLlXzRwiOKaXD2CPWliGqRSogWkRbWqVAHla0lGtHE1tqaGtHxRHqw40GYi3RE19Cys0OCvc1lASY6u9(QzKl09Auq0YzJC6jG2CUhfFzmNb9ci75EzmNb9cibRxY6LUuCUhfDMtzpNZGjrJY5DAKkNf8AwuckjqC5O3Mfo3JIHz))SNdgZilCcUSESqLkN7rXxgdzpN7rXWOqvVYEUxgdzH7ptlJemDQCHz))SW9NPLrUov6wbGPbsLkvckDw4CgfETgczH7LXCg0lGeuIsharLdITlAkbLrUlmA4moHc8Ane(eeyofETgczHtdkJCV6v3ZHjrJYvjuVOXkRt17RMro3JIVmMZGEbK9CodMenkN3Pro3JIoZPSN7LXCg0lGeuIshaXf6EnkiA5Sro9eqBQCjoB1cbLeiUZMRMAJWW7f4ca9c4uOx9eukoVT9Px04ZIk8Ane(SqLZcEnlkbLeiUC0BZcN7rXWS)F2ZbJzKfobxwpwOsLZ9O4lJHSNZ9OyyuOQxzp3lJHSW9NPLrcMovUWS)Fw4(Z0YixNkDRaW0aPsLkbLilCoJcVwdHSW9Yyod6fqcMUuPdGKIkN32(0lA8zrfETgcFwOYD2CPg6EVncR7FRSEk8KwiNcVwdHSWPbLrUx9Q75WKOr5QeQx0yL1P69vZiN7rXxgZzqVaYEoNbtIgLZ70iN7rrN5u2Zf6EnkiA5Sro9eqBUxgZzqVasW0LkDaKuu5sC2QfckjqCbGEbCk0REckjNXjuGxRHWNGaZzbVMfLGsceheBx0uckJCxy0WLJEBw4CpkgM9)ZEoymJSWj4Y6XcvQCUhfFzmK9CUhfdJcv9k75EzmKfU)mTmsW0PYfM9)Zc3FMwg56uPBfaMgivQujiaIfoNrHxRHqw4EzmNb9cibRhO6LoWu5Gy7IMsqzK7cJgoJtOaVwdHpbbMZBBF6fn(SOcVwdHplu5sC2QfckjqCNnxDNZUHcOr5ca9c4uOx9emDofETgczHtdkJCV6v3ZHjrJYvjuVOXkRt17RMrUxgZzqVasW6bQEPdmN7rXxgZzqVaYEUq3RrbrlNnYPNaAZ5Eu0zoL9CodMenkN3PrQCwWRzrjOKaXLJEBw4CpkgM9)ZEoymJSWj4Y6XcvQCUhfFzmK9CUhfdJcv9k75EzmKfU)mTmsW0PYfM9)Zc3FMwg56uPBfaMgivQujiWaXcNZOWR1qilCVmMZGEbKGsuQ6LcaOYPWR1qilCAqzK7vV6EomjAuUkH6fnwzDQEF1mYf6EnkiA5Sro9eqBo3JIVmMZGEbK9CodMenkN3Pro3JIoZPSN7LXCg0lGeuIsvVuaavoVT9Px04ZIk8Ane(SqqGzHtHxRHqw40GYi3RE19CodMenkN3Pro5ycekgLrOxJqoPDo3JIYXeiK9Cys0OCPiMdAL1DIjqi37QIjrJ2bIbUA5wNA62L7DvXKOrNlqGRwoXuxzfXvQaOcN7rrN5u2Z5mNYjN9briNCmbc5KIkNZOWR1qiluPsW6zHtHxRHqw4GOahaW9UQys0OZfiWvlNyQRSI4kvauHlMWaytoi75WKOr5sb6ZQfU3vftIgTdedC1YTo10TlNnw1fiqjOmYLIA62rctvxoN5uo5Spic5mEb8zHGaZLMPoU7p9IgQCUhbekWEonOmY5DqpxO71OGOLZg50taTPY5mk8AneYcvQu5oBUckiN9W3kRRBi0(cvUeNTAHGscexaOxaNc9QNG1ZzCcf41Ai8jy6CwWRzrjOKaXbX2fnLGYi3fgnC5O3Mfo3JIHz))SNdgZilCcUSESqLkN7rXxgdzpN7rXWOqvVYEUxgdzH7ptlJemDQCHz))SW9NPLrUov6wbGPbsLkvQCjjiWscequjb
Edited by Quinten on 2/2/2013 1:10 PM PST
Reply Quote
90 Blood Elf Paladin
1480
so wait, what are the hit and expertise caps now?
Reply Quote
100 Blood Elf Paladin
8670
02/06/2013 06:22 PMPosted by Lameboi
so wait, what are the hit and expertise caps now?


7.5% each for ret. That's 2550 rating.
Reply Quote
90 Draenei Paladin
9900
If there's anything outstandingly new that needs to be changed here, please let me know. I don't see anything new on EJ, so... not much to update.
Reply Quote
90 Dwarf Paladin
12730
Holy crap, he's back!
Reply Quote
90 Draenei Paladin
9900
For a little bit, yes. Just wanted to spruce up the guide since it got stickied (finally) and do a quick raid or two to get my fix. I wanted to do some PvP too, but it turns out I'm pretty much awful at it. :D
Edited by Svayne on 9/7/2014 1:38 AM PDT
Reply Quote
80 Blood Elf Paladin
4510
I'm starting up paladin again, but had a question that I can't seem to find an answer to. In the priority system, why do you want to wait for 5 HP TV? I don't see any tooltip showing bonus damage for having 5 HP as opposed to 3 HP, or am I missing something?
Reply Quote
100 Draenei Paladin
16695
02/09/2013 09:47 AMPosted by Kenzo
am I missing something?


Hitting a 3HP TV when one of your HP generators is off the CD is a waste and will eventually result in less TV usage.

Most of the time if you can store another HP and have a generator off CD you should be hitting it instead of TV.

That's why TV is generally used at 5HP.
Reply Quote
80 Blood Elf Paladin
4510
02/09/2013 10:05 AMPosted by Cadenbrie
am I missing something?


Hitting a 3HP TV when one of your HP generators is off the CD is a waste and will eventually result in less TV usage.

Most of the time if you can store another HP and have a generator off CD you should be hitting it instead of TV.

That's why TV is generally used at 5HP.


All right, I can understand that logic now, thought there was something else going on with it, but the way you answered it makes it very straight forward. Thank you.
Reply Quote
90 Human Paladin
0
I've started up playing my pally for the first time since holy power was introduced and I think I have everything down pat except for one thing. I've noticed that every once in a while I'm left with a few seconds of downtime where all my HoPo generators are on cooldown and I've only got 2 HoPo and Inq doesn't need to be refreshed. Is there anything I can do with that downtime? I read the EJ ret thread and they suggested using those empty GCDs to cast Sacred Shield and I figured I'd ask you guys what you suggested as well. Will those gaps become less frequent after I get Execution Sentence and get better gear?

Thanks!
Reply Quote
90 Dwarf Paladin
12730
SS is probably the simplest gap filler; the L90 talents help to eat those few empty globals, too. But, yes, the primary thing that's going to eliminate those gaps is haste - which you will get with gear.
Reply Quote
85 Gnome Priest
Sin
7720
is this guide up to date even tho its 5.2 now?
Reply Quote
90 Dwarf Paladin
12730
Pretty much. Only real changes would be rotation with 4pT15 (which puts CS up to just below HoW to fish for HolyTV procs) and when to use SoR (~4 targets now instead of 6+).
Reply Quote
90 Draenei Paladin
11175
So I currently have,
http://www.wowhead.com/item=86802 and http://www.wowhead.com/item=86894. I was thinking about getting http://www.wowhead.com/item=94508 but was not sure which trink to replace with it. Any advice? Suggestions?
Reply Quote
90 Dwarf Paladin
12730
Dump the Vortex.
Reply Quote
91 Draenei Paladin
12505
I'm pretty happy with how my ret set has come out. A big thank you to the OP for helping to point this player in the right direction!

My MS is prot, but ret is a heck of a lot more fun to play!
Reply Quote
90 Dwarf Paladin
12730
I'm pretty happy with how my ret set has come out. A big thank you to the OP for helping to point this player in the right direction!

My MS is prot, but ret is a heck of a lot more fun to play!


Glad you're enjoying Ret, but you look like your gear still needs a good bit of work. You're forging to mastery and crit where you could be forging to haste, you're under the expertise cap (to which you could easily forge), and you're putting orange/green gems in yellow/prismatic sockets where you should have just plain haste gems.
Reply Quote
90 Draenei Paladin
11245
I've just started MoP raiding, computer issues and all that fun kept me from it. I have a decently powered desktop now that greatly reduced my lag. I don't want to bring the raid groups down so I set out to research and improve my DPS. From what I see here so far I'm doing several things right, but my question is what can I tweak to improve further? I did decently in LFR as a kind of test run through MSV, HoF, and ToES. I want to work up to doing them in Normal and Heroic modes, as well as getting in on ToT, which I haven't felt ready enough to attempt yet. Any suggestions from seasoned RetPally's would be much appreciated.
Reply Quote

Please report any Code of Conduct violations, including:

Threats of violence. We take these seriously and will alert the proper authorities.

Posts containing personal information about other players. This includes physical addresses, e-mail addresses, phone numbers, and inappropriate photos and/or videos.

Harassing or discriminatory language. This will not be tolerated.

Forums Code of Conduct

Report Post # written by

Reason
Explain (256 characters max)
Submit Cancel

Reported!

[Close]