[Elemental] Shaman 4.3 DPS sucks !!

12 Tauren Paladin
30
What happened to ele shamans dps.. It sucks so bad right now. Either increase elemental shaman drops or balance the class.
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Yeah its pretty lackluster atm, the people who I used to out dps now top me in the meters....its retarded
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90 Goblin Shaman
7440
Go enhance its op now
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85 Troll Shaman
10410
PEBKAC
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85 Draenei Shaman
9370
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-5c3ebe5a2zesfzbc/sum/damageDone/?s=2628&e=2989#Klymâx

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-5c3ebe5a2zesfzbc/sum/damageDone/?s=3884&e=4193#Klymâx

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-5c3ebe5a2zesfzbc/analyze/dd/source/?s=5038&e=5312


Ele dps is fine. L2P
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12/06/2011 08:54 PMPosted by Liax
PEBKAC


12/06/2011 09:33 PMPosted by Klymâx
Ele dps is fine. L2P


And, to add:

http://simulationcraft.org/430/Raid_T13H.html
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90 Pandaren Shaman
6000
It's really not as bad as you're making it out to be.
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85 Goblin Shaman
9430
I find that if I push my buttons extra hard, the spells hit for more >.>
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85 Orc Shaman
3575
12/06/2011 09:33 PMPosted by Klymâx
Ele dps is fine. L2P
Yup cause the orange(DTR) had nothing to do with it. :D

12/06/2011 09:35 PMPosted by Magelam
http://simulationcraft.org/430/Raid_T13H.html
The only problem with that, is us mere mortals will probably never get full heroic gear and the DTR. :P
Edited by Masochist on 12/6/2011 10:29 PM PST
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90 Draenei Shaman
16690
12/06/2011 10:27 PMPosted by Masochist
The only problem with that, is us mere mortals will probably never get full heroic gear and the DTR. :P


And neither will most other casters <3
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85 Draenei Shaman
9370
12/06/2011 10:27 PMPosted by Masochist
Yup cause the orange(DTR) had nothing to do with it. :D


we have 5 other DTRs in raid and I kept up with all of them. So yeah actually DTR didnt have much to do with it.
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85 Orc Shaman
3575
The only problem with that, is us mere mortals will probably never get full heroic gear and the DTR. :P


And neither will most other casters <3
Indeed <3



12/06/2011 11:02 PMPosted by Klymâx
we have 5 other DTRs in raid and I kept up with all of them. So yeah actually DTR didnt have much to do with it.
Now what if you didn't have it. Where would your numbers be?

Now before name calling gets thrown around (sometimes happens here), I'm not saying your bad or the orange is doing the work for the gap in numbers. Just saying those numbers won't match up to us without it. (or those without it won't match up to your numbers)

P.s I'm not saying or agreeing with the OP, just saying its harder to get good numbers with less gear...I think. :P
Edited by Masochist on 12/6/2011 11:14 PM PST
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85 Draenei Shaman
9370
12/06/2011 11:05 PMPosted by Masochist
Now what if you didn't have it. Where would your numbers be?


What I should say is that, while DTR is an amazing weapon for elemental shamans, it isnt necessarily needed to stay competitive. My own personal numbers were about 3-5k lower w/o DTR, and that would put me roughly in the middle of the pack for dps in my guild. I think getting the 2/4pc has as big as or an even bigger impact than getting DTR as Ele dps, and people shouldnt just write off ele dps as terrible before getting them.

See? No name calling required =D
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85 Orc Shaman
3575
12/06/2011 11:16 PMPosted by Klymâx
See? No name calling required =D
<3 ^_^
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9 Blood Elf Paladin
0
Klymax im jealous of your gear.
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90 Pandaren Shaman
10715
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-5c3ebe5a2zesfzbc/sum/damageDone/?s=2628&e=2989#Klymâx

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-5c3ebe5a2zesfzbc/sum/damageDone/?s=3884&e=4193#Klymâx

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-5c3ebe5a2zesfzbc/analyze/dd/source/?s=5038&e=5312


Ele dps is fine. L2P


yea ele is fine! [checks armory..... legendary and 4pc]

yea no !@#$ your dps is fine
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7 Night Elf Druid
0
12/06/2011 11:16 PMPosted by Klymâx
Now what if you didn't have it. Where would your numbers be?


What I should say is that, while DTR is an amazing weapon for elemental shamans, it isnt necessarily needed to stay competitive. My own personal numbers were about 3-5k lower w/o DTR, and that would put me roughly in the middle of the pack for dps in my guild. I think getting the 2/4pc has as big as or an even bigger impact than getting DTR as Ele dps, and people shouldnt just write off ele dps as terrible before getting them.

See? No name calling required =D


Also in fairness your circumstances are ideal getting full 40% increased duration fire elementals on 4-5 minute normal pulls. The fights will get longer and you will not have fire and earth totems for every pull. Not to mention having full 397 set I imagine you have a solid gear lead.


I just can't really see a scenario where a shaman can compete with an equally geared warlock/mage. I guess time will tell, but I'm fairly confident parse averages will agree with me.
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85 Draenei Shaman
3930
What klymax fails to tell others is he has the 4pc bonus of t13 where as the other casters still have t12.

Way to leave out important info there buddy. How about coming back and posting your logs when they have the same quality gear.
Edited by Fligmos on 12/7/2011 7:00 AM PST
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90 Tauren Shaman
7500
I think it is a bit of a nerf for me - not wanting to drop the fire elemental on the trash fights has been the most frustrating. Overuse of chain lightning (glyphed) is also part of my problem, but it is so much fun. But, I am still competitive in my casual raiding group.

I find it hard to compare dps numbers because a lot of the fights are so different. Last week on Rags I did about 18k (according to world of logs) and this week on Morchok/Zonozz I did about 22k. I don't think that I am 4k better this week (although I am better geared) - its just that the fights are different.
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