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Hey fellow shammies. Has anyone else notice our dps not scaling as well as certain other classes on this encounter? I feel like the haste and procs don't seem be working as well on us as classes such as rogues/warriors/hunters? Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I was doing almost 15k more dps on my lower geared alt combat rogue, then I was on my main Shammy. Anyone have any tips or are we just a little screwed on this encounter?

If Haste buff then screwed

You simply cannot benefit from it as much as another DPS can. You have no mechanics aside from auto-attack (and, to an extent, Flame Shock) which benefit from Haste at all.

So I guess this encounter was just designed without Enhancement in mind? That bites if that is true. I guess we are just at a hard dps disadvantage compared to other classes on this fight.

Welcome to being Enhancement this expansion. Sinestra sucked, Ragnaros sucked, and Madness of Deathwing sorta sucks. Though not nearly as bad as the other 2 fights.

I heal for this fight, but we did have an enhancement shaman in our guild who normally pulls high numbers on this fight a few times. I noticed his numbers were A LOT lower than other DPS, and low for himself, as well.

Bummer, I was hoping you guys would tell me I suck and what I'm doing wrong lol. Sounds like we just got the short end of the stick on this one. Oh well, at least most of the other fights in here are good fights for us to rage on.

Yeah. It's just the old complaint given life once more.

We scale well with Mastery.

We scale poorly with Crit.

We hardly scale at all with Haste.

I guess I will volunteer to heal for this encounter and hang my axes up for this one. Just bums me out a bit because this is the penultimate encounter in the whole expansion and guess what, sorry you picked the wrong spec! *grumble* *grumble*

I have to say though. As bad as we have it on madness of DW, Demo Locks have it worse. Our Demo Lock in our 10 man does less damage on this fight than on other fights. So just be glad that we don't do WORSE.

12/11/2011 11:22 AMPosted by Djak

Our Demo Lock in our 10 man does less damage on this fight than on other fights.

How is that even possible?

Not only is Demo doing really well in general, both in single-target and AoE, but they scale really powerfully with Haste.

12/11/2011 12:54 PMPosted by Matuk

Our Demo Lock in our 10 man does less damage on this fight than on other fights.

How is that even possible?

Not only is Demo doing really well in general, both in single-target and AoE, but they scale really powerfully with Haste.

Probably because they can't land Hand of Gul'dan on the Corruptions.

Oh that would make sense, yeah.

But I think they would then just focus on single-target.

I sorta feel better knowing that Demos are also screwed. It's good to have another class sitting in the back of the bus with us in this fight!

A lot of your numbers could be determined by the order of platforms you go on remember, since it's sort of a gimmick fight because you have buffs and what not what kind of numbers have you been pulling for it? Just out of curiosity.

I noticed on the meters from our kill on the first week(WoL was not logging 1st week). Spellweave only procced about 42 times the entire fight, meanwhile others were getting 165-200+ putting myself at around 40k while others were at 65k. I don't know why the proc for us was so ridiculously low coupled with the fact that haste is terrible.

*I just did a LFR madness and the enh sham was topping the entire fight by a decent margin 70k peak ending at around 65k. Spellweave seemed to proc alot 170+ so maybe they increased it for us? I havent done it yet on my main as we're working on heroics atm but I hope this weeks performance won't be as embarassing as the first barely beating our dk tank....

12/11/2011 11:22 AMPosted by Djak

I have to say though. As bad as we have it on madness of DW, Demo Locks have it worse. Our Demo Lock in our 10 man does less damage on this fight than on other fights. So just be glad that we don't do WORSE.

I would think aff would be a lot stronger on this fight anyway. Easy target switches and multidotting capabilities. They lack burst for the burning tentacles but for everything else they have a clear advantage. I could be putting my foot in my mouth but that's my opinion.

Hi guys,

I too exp lower than usual Dps for madness on 25 man.

My DPS was 42.5K which put me 15th out of 17 dps. (this was without my current weapons).

This dps was unusually low compared to other encounters which normally see me in the top 5 dps.

I suppose haste doesn't really help our cause too much, unlike other warriors (who I normally out dps).

Admittedly, if BLiz kept the same enhanced mechanics (Pre-DS) we would be doing like 28k due to the enhanced build up time.

Target switching and moving didn't help my cause too much ESP with only nitro boots as compared to Ret Paladins who can judge for a movement buff.

Hi guys,

I too exp lower than usual Dps for madness on 25 man.

My DPS was 42.5K which put me 15th out of 17 dps. (this was without my current weapons).

This dps was unusually low compared to other encounters which normally see me in the top 5 dps.

I suppose haste doesn't really help our cause too much, unlike other warriors (who I normally out dps).

Admittedly, if BLiz kept the same enhanced mechanics (Pre-DS) we would be doing like 28k due to the enhanced build up time.

Target switching and moving didn't help my cause too much ESP with only nitro boots as compared to Ret Paladins who can judge for a movement buff.

Hey Garshak, our gear is pretty similar and I seem to be experiencing similar results depending on which platform order of course. Guess I am not alone in this.

Not getting much benefit from the haste buff is probably doing it to us. I dunno about anyone else but I have issues getting AoE in on the bloods that spawn during the fight. Lava Lash never seems to line up right when they start spawning and by the time I can get it off to spread FS all the bloods are almost dead from everyone else's damage.
I think AoE damage plays a big part cause each time your AoE attack does damage has a chance to activate the damage proc that you get from the Blue dragon aspect's buff.

So yea, I can see why our damage seems lower than usual on this fight. I am usually at the top of the damage meter in my raids but the first time we kill this boss I was significantly lower than usual. Its not like my damage went down really, it just like everyone else's went up.

Just did this on LFR, my travel laptop blows for 25 mans but I pulled 57.5k

Spellweave procced 119 times and was 7.7% of my dps.

Seems fine to me.


Edit-was looking at the previous attempt, not the kill.