Shale spider as BM pvp pet?

85 Human Hunter
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Anyone using one of these for pvp?

http://www.wowhead.com/pet=55/shale-spider

The 3 second ranged stun is 1 second longer than the stun you get from comparable non-exotic pets like a bat. And the pet provides a buff that duplicates blessing of kings/mark of the wild so if you're on an arena team with no druid or pally you can use it to provide the buff.

The one downside I can see is that I assume that stun would put initimidation stun on DR for 20 seconds or whatever. But overall it looks good- anyone have experience with this pet in pvp? I'm thinking I'll likely use it as my main pet in MoP when I'll discard intimidation for silencing shot when it (along with readiness) becomes available to BM.
Edited by Arrowset on 12/27/2011 8:53 AM PST
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Imo shale spiders are very good in pvp especially when your not with a paladin or druid its stun also is useful and has roar of sacrifice and intervene incase your getting beat on.

Shale spiders #1!!!!!!!
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60 Human Death Knight
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Jadefang looks tempting...
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90 Night Elf Hunter
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I use my shale spider a great deal in PVP - her stun is great and then add Intimidation and i can "tie up" your opponet for even longer
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90 Night Elf Hunter
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12/27/2011 10:30 AMPosted by Keltir
Jadefang looks tempting...

I tamed Jadefang for ego reasons lol, but all in all when done he is still a shale spider with same abilities..but cool to have lol
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85 Human Hunter
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12/27/2011 10:51 AMPosted by Layinda
I use my shale spider a great deal in PVP - her stun is great and then add Intimidation and i can "tie up" your opponet for even longer


Is intimidation on DR if you use it right after the spider stun? If not, that would be really powerful.

I love having pet abilities that make your opponent lose control of his character. Say a rogue cheapshots you and pops shadow dance. You spider stun him. He trinkets. Oh snap, here's an intimidation for you, Mr. Rogue! Pop deterrence right before intimidation ends and dismiss your shale spider and summon a monkey. Oh, got something in your eye, Mr. Rogue?

Good times and more fun than just healing yourself with a spirit beast.
Edited by Arrowset on 12/27/2011 10:59 AM PST
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90 Night Elf Hunter
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12/27/2011 10:54 AMPosted by Arrowset
I use my shale spider a great deal in PVP - her stun is great and then add Intimidation and i can "tie up" your opponet for even longer


Is intimidation on DR if you use it right after the spider stun? If not, that would be really powerful.


Intimadation is a talen on BM specs and yes i try and use it after my pet stun wears off. Course u can use they ability with any pet when active BM spec
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90 Night Elf Hunter
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12/27/2011 10:54 AMPosted by Arrowset
I use my shale spider a great deal in PVP - her stun is great and then add Intimidation and i can "tie up" your opponet for even longer


Is intimidation on DR if you use it right after the spider stun? If not, that would be really powerful.

I love having pet abilities that make your opponent lose control of his character. Say a rogue cheapshots you and pops shadow dance. You spider stun him. He trinkets. Oh snap, here's an intimidation for you, Mr. Rogue! Pop deterrence right before intimidation ends and dismiss your shale spider and summon a monkey. Oh, got something in your eye, Mr. Rogue?

Good times and more fun than just healing yourself with a spirit beast.


LOL love it!!! i need to use my monkey more it seems
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85 Human Hunter
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Intimadation is a talen on BM specs and yes i try and use it after my pet stun wears off. Course u can use they ability with any pet when active BM spec


Yes, I know what intimidation is, but I was wondering whether it shares diminishing returns with the spider stun since they are both stuns. That is, if you intimidate right after spider stunning, does the intimidation only last half as long as it normally does because it shares dr with the spider stun?
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90 Night Elf Hunter
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Intimadation is a talen on BM specs and yes i try and use it after my pet stun wears off. Course u can use they ability with any pet when active BM spec


Yes, I know what intimidation is, but I was wondering whether it shares diminishing returns with the spider stun since they are both stuns. That is, if you intimidate right after spider stunning, does the intimidation only last half as long as it normally does because it shares dr with the spider stun?


Ahhh got it..sorry. no it works as seperatly but in pvp the DR is about 3 sec in pvp
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85 Orc Hunter
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Pet stuns (does not included Monkey Bad Manners) share DR with Intimidation.
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85 Human Hunter
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I find the 2nd stun extreamly helpful in 2's with me and my priest.

Shale Spider is helpful when you are being opened on with a rogue or druid and can ice trap them and get some distance before attacking back.

I agree Shale Spider #1
Edited by Pebz on 12/27/2011 11:16 AM PST
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90 Human Hunter
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i cant let spirit beasts go for bm pvp. the hot is just too good. the damage difference is noticeable as well. i have tried the shale spider and that extra cc might make a big difference in 2s and 3s, to clutch a kill, but for random bgs where bm is really at its best, the survivability and burst from spirit beast is ftw imho.
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85 Human Hunter
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12/27/2011 11:19 AMPosted by Ilke
i cant let spirit beasts go for bm pvp. the hot is just too good. the damage difference is noticeable as well. i have tried the shale spider and that extra cc might make a big difference in 2s and 3s, to clutch a kill, but for random bgs where bm is really at its best, the survivability and burst from spirit beast is ftw imho.


Yeah, I agree that the spirit mend heal is really powerful, I just don't enjoy using it that much. Over the course of a bg, you'll get more benefit from the spirit mend than the pet stun in all likelihood. But for me the fun of being a hunter is in owning people 1v1, and I simply hate just having to sit there and tank damage 1v1 while I'm stunned. It also feels more skillful to use a pet stun or blind at just the right time. You could probably just macro spirit mend to deterrence, disengage or some other defensive ability and do just fine. But that obviously takes no skill.
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85 Human Hunter
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12/27/2011 11:13 AMPosted by Kreauxm
Pet stuns (does not included Monkey Bad Manners) share DR with Intimidation.


Bummer. I assume that most BM pvp hunters will take silencing shot over intimidation in MoP, however, and the spider stun should be gold then. It's still really good now even with the dr issue.
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