Topic Guys.
Mechified
Zul'jin
Mechified
85 Human Paladin
7335
Do you think we will ever colonize in space? Will we all be spread across the universe as a species?
Tyarowyn
Fizzcrank
Tyarowyn
85 Night Elf Mage
6280
Much of this universe could already be occupied.

We came after the 200 million year age of dinosaurs. That's time another group of creatures could have spent becoming increasingly intelligent and technologically advanced.

If we don't bonk heads with anyone when we are expanding we should be ok.
Nachtstier
Mug'thol
Nachtstier
85 Tauren Shaman
9340
Given enough time, and us not being wiped out by something (whether we cause it or not), then yeah, we prob could.
Deandia
Wyrmrest Accord
Deandia
85 Blood Elf Mage
2085
Scientists have stated , right or wrong, that a very large object struck the earth, in the past, and wiped most of the life from this planet.

It could happen again and wipe us clean off the planet as well.

Have a great day.





Mechified
Zul'jin
Mechified
85 Human Paladin
7335
Scientists have stated , right or wrong, that a very large object struck the earth, in the past, and wiped most of the life from this planet.

It could happen again and wipe us clean off the planet as well.

Have a great day.


I laughed so hard.

But your right..I suppose that could happen again. Could we predict it?
Mechified
Zul'jin
Mechified
85 Human Paladin
7335
Much of this universe could already be occupied.

We came after the 200 million year age of dinosaurs. That's time another group of creatures could have spent becoming increasingly intelligent and technologically advanced.

If we don't bonk heads with anyone when we are expanding we should be ok.


Wouldn't we have evidence of this?
Snozberries
Aerie Peak
Snozberries
85 Draenei Paladin
11200
Scientists have stated , right or wrong, that a very large object struck the earth, in the past, and wiped most of the life from this planet.

It could happen again and wipe us clean off the planet as well.

Have a great day.


Or a super volcano could erupt and bring about another ice-age. A pandemic could send us back to the dark ages again. Unexpected weather phenomena could create super hurricanes (hypercanes) that could wipe out populations around the globe. We could still blow ourselves up in a nuclear holocaust.

There's a large number of bad things that have a remote chance of happening.


Back on topic, given enough time, resources, and incentive humanity will probably start colonizing space at some point in the future. Keeping large numbers of people healthy and safe in a weightless environment for extended periods of time will be a big challenge.

But if and when faster than light travel is possible and safe colonization of other planets to exploit their resources seems more likely. Although the resources required just to start that kind of venture would require great incentive.
Mechified
Zul'jin
Mechified
85 Human Paladin
7335
Scientists have stated , right or wrong, that a very large object struck the earth, in the past, and wiped most of the life from this planet.

It could happen again and wipe us clean off the planet as well.

Have a great day.


Or a super volcano could erupt and bring about another ice-age. A pandemic could send us back to the dark ages again. Unexpected weather phenomena could create super hurricanes (hypercanes) that could wipe out populations around the globe. We could still blow ourselves up in a nuclear holocaust.

There's a large number of bad things that have a remote chance of happening.


Back on topic, given enough time, resources, and incentive humanity will probably start colonizing space at some point in the future. Keeping large numbers of people healthy and safe in a weightless environment for extended periods of time will be a big challenge.

But if and when faster than light travel is possible and safe colonization of other planets to exploit their resources seems more likely. Although the resources required just to start that kind of venture would require great incentive.



Why thank you! I enjoy all of your posts. I am writing a project. :p
Moonrage
Boulderfist
Moonrage
85 Night Elf Druid
6435
Agreed; granted that nothing disastrous happens to us and we have the time, we'll definitely get there.

The project to put people on Mars will definitely be interesting as that'll be another huge step in "keeping people healthy and safe in a weightless environment" (Snozberries).

I think what will also set us back is the variety of planets out there as well. They are all of different masses so there's a huge range of gravities, there will be some with such a huge pull that we'd probably only stick to (or start off with) putting humans on the lighter planets and leaving the big heavy ones alone.

Then there is the huge variety in conditions, some more hospitable than others - but it's not just going to be a case of 'put a suit on him and give him an air source', because the varieties of materials we have will also be a restriction. From a chemists view, what materials are stable on Earth may not perform so well on another planet. But at the same time, the combinations which are not-stable on Earth may seem perfectly so on such other planets simply due to temperature differences, radiation exposure differences, etc.

As for the following:

Much of this universe could already be occupied.

We came after the 200 million year age of dinosaurs. That's time another group of creatures could have spent becoming increasingly intelligent and technologically advanced.

If we don't bonk heads with anyone when we are expanding we should be ok.


Wouldn't we have evidence of this?


I don't think we would. The universe is HUUUUUUUGE. Granted that there is going to be some kind of 'speed limit' such as the speed of light, it could be that a portion of the universe is already occupied/colonised and we would never know because it's just so damn far away that even if we sent some kind of a 'probe' or had a big fancy telescope and 'looked' in that direction we would see it as it was millions of years ago and not what it is 'right now'.

I'm not too sure how to explain this clearly, but I'll give it a go:
They could be REALLY advanced in the present (as in, 'at this very second'), but if we could miraculously observe them 'at this very second' using light then we'd see them existing in a stone age or as if their form of organism hadn't even come to exist yet.

Frikky
Earthen Ring
Frikky
85 Undead Hunter
2560
It could happen. One of my favorite physicists Michio Kaku explained there are 3 stages of civilization. type 0 which is us, we have not left home, we've only visited our moon. We can't control anything on our planet and we're still separated into many different cultures. Type 1 civilization is one culture, with a type 1 language, culture and communication systems. Type 1 culture can be seen happening now. English is the most popular language in the world and he believes one day everyone will speak it, even if it's a second language. Culture is integrating with others more and more throughout the world, fashion, music etc. The internet is a type 1 communication system, we can talk to anyone in the world instantly in many different ways.

Type 2 civilization is controlling the planets resources, weather, and traveling into our solar system, maybe recolonizing another close by planet. People will be living much longer by this stage because of advances in science and medicine.

Type 3 civilization is where we basically become immortal from our advances, we become almost god-like and have access to interstellar travel.

He said the problem is that we're in a crucial transitional period right now from type 0 to type 1. We have weapons of mass destruction and things like deadly super viruses but as a species we still have evolutionary baggage like fear, hate & jealousy, we're territorial and proud. We have the power to kill ourselves easily if we don't take care. But if we can get past it we could make it easily if we had a goal for it. The universe is larger than the human brain can comprehend. We are one of billions of galaxies with billions of stars. The numbers alone suggest there are more livable worlds than we could count.

Sorry for the wall of text. I love space. :D
Mechified
Zul'jin
Mechified
85 Human Paladin
7335
01/11/2012 02:23 PMPosted by Frikky
I love space. :D


MEE TOO! Thank you for the post. That was interesting. Got any good scifi TV shows?
Relesa
Shadow Council
Relesa
85 Night Elf Death Knight
1435
Edited by Relesa on 1/12/12 1:40 PM (PST)
OP:

Please consider looking up Warhammer 40,000 for what is presented as a horribly wrong yet entirely possible outcome due to the belief that space is mankind's inheritance.

Let me go dive for the thread where this was discussed:

Edit: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3123038904?page=1#18

The thread post here is me, and the poster above it linked the wiki article on this treaty as well.
Bamf
Shattered Hand
Bamf
85 Orc Warrior
8265
01/11/2012 02:23 PMPosted by Frikky
English is the most popular language in the world

Off topic, but I'm 99% sure it isn't.
Hexikura
Dath'Remar
Hexikura
85 Human Warlock
1600
01/12/2012 02:03 PMPosted by Bamf
English is the most popular language in the world

Off topic, but I'm 99% sure it isn't.


I believe it is the second most common from memory, couldn't be bothered checking.
Eroley
Mal'Ganis
Eroley
85 Blood Elf Priest
3150
Edited by Eroley on 1/12/12 8:15 PM (PST)
Actually it is....
...
...
THIRD!!
(Source ---->) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers

Better learn a Mandarin dialect and Spanish..
____________________________________________
Edit: After actually READING my source I noticed that if you look at the far right column there is actualy 1.5 billion total speakers of the English language, with the second most being 1.2 billion speaking Mandarin. Therefore English is the most popular language in the world
Sadface
Nachtstier
Mug'thol
Nachtstier
85 Tauren Shaman
9340
Actually it is....
...
...
THIRD!!
(Source ---->) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers

Better learn a Mandarin dialect and Spanish..
____________________________________________
Edit: After actually READING my source I noticed that if you look at the far right column there is actualy 1.5 billion total speakers of the English language, with the second most being 1.2 billion speaking Mandarin. Therefore English is the most popular language in the world
Sadface


Well, native English speakers who know chineese or spanish will really be able to talk to a whole lot of people.
Outen
Feathermoon
Outen
85 Undead Mage
3200
I think it would be easier if the species got it's head together and saw what's really important in the great scheme of things. Otherwise, I think it's going to be a long, hard road to deep space colonization.
Ackenlore
Earthen Ring
Ackenlore
85 Human Mage
2590
OP:

Please consider looking up Warhammer 40,000 for what is presented as a horribly wrong yet entirely possible outcome due to the belief that space is mankind's inheritance.

Let me go dive for the thread where this was discussed:

Edit: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3123038904?page=1#18

The thread post here is me, and the poster above it linked the wiki article on this treaty as well.



The entire Warhammer story is humanity is up crap creak without a paddle, not just the 40K world.
Torvin
Drak'Tharon
Torvin
81 Human Paladin
620
If we survive the next 100 years, then hell yes. We will find a way to go FTL. It's our destiny to troll the ETs.
Ayen
Mok'Nathal
Ayen
85 Night Elf Hunter
5990
simple answer, no. i don't

resources are kerbillion times more abundant here than anywhere remotely close.

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