01/18/2012 06:52 PMBelieve it or not there are actually guilds and raiding groups that are attempting to progress through Normal and Heroic raids, but are hitting a wall, and have been hitting a wall. We have actual statistical data we base our changes on, we know exactly how many people are clearing these raids each week, we know exactly how many people are able to down just a few bosses, and how many were only able to down a few bosses every week for weeks on end and then stopped raiding altogether.
Posted by Bashiok
While it is understandable that people are hitting a wall, it is proven by the fact that Deathwing has been slain on Heroic difficulty that the content is not impossible. With that in mind, I go by the logic that anyone, even the worst player in the world, can make massive improvements if they put their mind to it. Maybe they need some guidance, maybe they just need practice. Perhaps there is some not-so-obvious mechanic in the background that they aren't considering when they play their character that is severely hindering their performance.
The nerfs would make more sense to come out later. We are still far enough from Mists of Pandaria that I firmly believe these walls can still be climbed over without the need of a nerf.
01/18/2012 06:52 PMThe issue we're constantly trying to combat is the one where people feel like they're just out of options. One way this is an issue is the content is too easy, they blasted through it, have everything they could possibly want, and have nothing else to do. Ideally that's a small subset of very hardcore players. For everyone else it's a feeling of just being stuck with no possible way to progress. Very few players are willing to suit up, buff up, do all the necessary requirements to raid, jump in, and then do no better than they did last week for hours and hours, only to return next week and do the same.
Posted by Bashiok
I feel like that is a flaw with the guilds and players themselves, not the content. Even though I consider myself a semi-hardcore raider, as a raid leader I would never put my guild through several hours of attempts on the exact same boss if no noticeable progress was being made. Instead, I would throw us at the boss a few times and use the data I gather through mods such as Recount (as well as my own observations) to see who needs improvement and take them aside and help them privately. If I can't guide them in the right direction with my own knowledge, I will point them to someone who can.
I have in the past done additional attempts on bosses when it has become obvious that we will not defeat it that night, where my primary focus is watching the field and other aspects that I don't usually focus on during an attempt. I watch for people standing in the bad stuff, keep an eye on raid frames, and so on. It's quite possible that I am taking my responsibility as a raid leader too
seriously and am overestimating the average Leader in a guild.
I do take my leadership position seriously, and I try my best to assist any of my raiders who may be falling behind so that we can, as a guild, progress further.
01/18/2012 06:52 PMIf a guild doesn't want the help, they're free to opt out of the buff. For those that do it's an approximate 5% change, which is pretty minor, and we expect it to be about a month before we raise it another 5%. This first change will absolutely help the guilds that are just barely sc@%#!*# by, or just need a tiny bump to cross the next hurdle, but it's just not logical to exclaim that someone will roll into Raid Finder, grab a couple items, then be looting Heroic Deathwing's corpse the next night.
Posted by Bashiok
REPORTED FOR SWEARING.
But seriously though, the option - while very thoughtful - is simply not realistic. I know of several people who loathe these changes as much as I do who simply cannot convince their entire groups to agree to disabling the buff. While no doubt there are a handful of guilds out there who have no problem disabling it, there are many raiders out here who do not want it, but have no true choice in the matter.
I do, however, greatly respect your decision IF you decide to make the buff increase on a monthly basis at minimum. Please wait until the very first maintenance in March to increase the debuff further. I'll be much more tolerant of this change if the buff is, indeed, released at a reasonable pace.
All in all, I and I'm sure many others appreciate you taking the time to make your statement on this change, Bashiok. Even if I don't agree with the decision, at least you did take the time to communicate your thoughts to the community.
Thank you. :D