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10 DKs doing a 10 man any other class able to pull that off?

There was a video a while ago of a Hunter soloing Atramedes.

Clearly Hunters need nerfs.

10 DKs doing a 10 man any other class able to pull that off?

Obviously you haven't seen the video of 40 shadow priests killing Onyxia. Or the hunter soloing Atramedes. Or the Blood DK soloing Arthas. Or the rogue soloing Patchwerk. Or the... well, you get the idea.

WoW is a complicated game with lots of complicated mechanics. Sometimes these mechanics interact in interesting ways that allow you to do something that isn't intended. When this unintended use nets you an advantage, it's usually fixed to preserve game balance. When it's just an oddity, there's no reason to fix it.

Being able to take ten of one class to an old raid and kill some bosses isn't a "concrete advantage." It's an interesting side effect of how Blood's mitigation mechanic works, and one that everyone knew would occur when they told us we had a minimum shield. More importantly, it does not mean the class is overpowered any more than a hunter's ability to solo Atramedes indicates that hunters are overpowered. Is it interesting? Sure. Is it "creative use of game mechanics?" Definitely. Is it a huge advantage over other people? No, not really.

02/01/2012 07:25 AMPosted by Vandaro

People still actually care about Firelands...?

i would have gone with the chewbacca defense.

02/01/2012 08:23 AMPosted by Krinu

10 DKs doing a 10 man any other class able to pull that off?

Obviously you haven't seen the video of 40 shadow priests killing Onyxia. Or the hunter soloing Atramedes. Or the Blood DK soloing Arthas. Or the rogue soloing Patchwerk. Or the... well, you get the idea.

WoW is a complicated game with lots of complicated mechanics. Sometimes these mechanics interact in interesting ways that allow you to do something that isn't intended. When this unintended use nets you an advantage, it's usually fixed to preserve game balance. When it's just an oddity, there's no reason to fix it.

Being able to take ten of one class to an old raid and kill some bosses isn't a "concrete advantage." It's an interesting side effect of how Blood's mitigation mechanic works, and one that everyone knew would occur when they told us we had a minimum shield. More importantly, it does not mean the class is overpowered any more than a hunter's ability to solo Atramedes indicates that hunters are overpowered. Is it interesting? Sure. Is it "creative use of game mechanics?" Definitely. Is it a huge advantage over other people? No, not really.

Is it not the same DK?

This thread is a bit cheezy, but I think it's a bit unfair to respond with the assertion that solo players downing severely nerfed content, some of it from the previous expansion, after hours of planning and perfect execution is the same as 10 relative strangers cooperating on one evening to down heroic mode content that has only recently been made obsolote, and still probably offers upgrades to some players.

I think the proper argument in defense of DKs is that there hasn't been an attempt made by any other class. Perhaps 10 hunters should give a go. :P

I remember 40 hunters killed Rag back in Vanilla. Not really a big deal, OP.

02/01/2012 07:25 AMPosted by Vandaro

People still actually care about Firelands...?

That's my favorite raid instance...

10 DKs doing a 10 man any other class able to pull that off?

And stop trying to make Death knight tanks suck again,

10 DKs doing a 10 man any other class able to pull that off?

Class? yes, druids.

02/01/2012 07:04 PMPosted by Scripture

10 DKs doing a 10 man any other class able to pull that off?

Class? yes, druids.

Paladins too, but it'd be weird.

02/01/2012 07:05 PMPosted by Skootalloo

Paladins too, but it'd be weird

That too.

Though I can see where the op is coming from, a class with no heal spec 10manning fairly current content does say alot about their current power.

T12 is not current content, T13 is current content.

02/01/2012 07:28 PMPosted by Krinu

T12 is not current content, T13 is current content.

T12 is still fairly current don't try that nonsense, it is not done with 5mans, or solo, etc, it is still fairly current, hell even BoT/BWD is considered current, icc/toc etc is not.

Basically look at your armory, the fact Firelands and Dragonsoul both say "optimal" and the rest say "Trivial" should be a hit that it is still somewhat current.

02/01/2012 07:05 PMPosted by Skootalloo

Paladins too, but it'd be weird.

Even if the Paladins don't touch?

T12 is still fairly current don't try that nonsense, it is not done with 5mans, or solo, etc, it is still fairly current, hell even BoT/BWD is considered current, icc/toc etc is not.

Basically look at your armory, the fact Firelands and Dragonsoul both say "optimal" and the rest say "Trivial" should be a hit that it is still somewhat current.

lol just no

02/01/2012 07:32 PMPosted by Scripture

T12 is still fairly current don't try that nonsense, it is not done with 5mans, or solo, etc, it is still fairly current, hell even BoT/BWD is considered current,

If it doesn't drop the highest tier available, then its not current.

02/01/2012 08:43 PMPosted by Thanatosia

Paladins too, but it'd be weird.

Even if the Paladins don't touch?

You NEVER make them touch, dude.

02/01/2012 08:53 AMPosted by Manswers

People still actually care about Firelands...?

i would have gone with the chewbacca defense.

This...is cheewwwwwbaca.

Even if the Paladins don't touch?

You NEVER make them touch, dude.

Dear Jesus, who's letting the paladins TOUCH?!?

EDIT: I AR SPEL GUD.

Man, I really like the kings, fort, and the other ton of DK buffs they have.