World of Warcraft™

This guild takeover option is crap. There are a lot of guilds out there that are made up of seasonal players. At best for many of my friends and I WOW is a winter sport. There is little to do during winter so it is a good way to remain active with friends. Some of us have to other things to do during the summer months. Real life stuff. So I only buy 6 months of WOW a year. Being a seasonal player I am forced to transfer my guild to someone I hope will remain active during my off period. If I dont have anyone I have to hope that one of the recruits, that I am try to expand my seasonal guild with, does not seize the opportunity to have a free guild bank and boot all of the other members. This is Crazy.

I see the need for taking over an inactive guild but there needs to be an option to lock this out or adjust the time limit. Like say 1 month to a max of 12 months as a guild setting that can only be adjusted once a year. Players still would have the choice to join a slow take over guild or a more active one. This would give active guilds the opportunity to attract serious players by saying they had a low time period, while casual guilds would have a medium time period that said they where serious but reserved and finally seasonal guilds could ensure that their guild would be there after an off season.

As of this patch I have seen 5 players seize 20+ guilds EACH just for storage on the servers they play the most.

This scribes a death warrant for all non annual guilds. It makes moonlighting more profitable then hacking accounts!

Hackers take notes. Create the max number of toons per account spread over every server. Join mid level casual guilds. Note the date the GuildLeader was last on and mark it on a calender. Check in on that toon exactly one month later. If the GuildLeader has logged back on in that time then note the new date. If they have not then take the guild, kick all of the members, sell all the items on AH and clean them out. There is even a good chance that the Guild Leader was active on an alt but did not log on the GuildLeader toon in that time.

Fact; People are taking over countless guilds right now and hacking them up for quick cash.
Fact; They could do it in the past with a GM ticket, and yes probably many did not know.
Fact; It was relatively safe to have a seasonal guild without kicking everyone.
Fact; It's no longer "relatively" safe to have a seasonal guild.
Fact; Kicking a seasonal guild destroying their players rep in that guild.
Fact; Since they took the time to integrate this auto system then it is not that much to ask to let the guilds set the clock and let player choose weather or not to join a high takeover guild.

Now if your honest I doubt you can argue those facts.


It would seem some of you are leery on what it means to be a seasonal or casual guild.
To be clear
A casual guild is made up of player that will play for a few months then take a brake from WOW to do something else from time to time. They return and then come back. Most people find doing the same thing over and over every day tedious, and WOW can get that way.

Seasonal guilds are made up mostly of people that have summer lives. They actually leave the house and have too much to do to justify wasting the cost of 6 months of game time they will not be playing.

Both seasonal and casual guilds should not be nurfed from the full WOW experience, which includes creating, recruiting, and evolving a guild. Players can chose weather or not to join these guilds. They should not have the choice to change these guild to what they want when the guild is acting as advertised. Guilds do not have to have a GL to operate. If they have good officers they can run normally. If a guild is clear they will have an off season then they need a way to lock the guild down without taking away the progress they have earned or kicking everyone.

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The screenshots are my convo with the gm... Basically he tells me we were hacked legitimately and there is nothing he can do...oh and F your 15+ subscriptions hah!

yes he did take over the guild legitly but he took it over when no one was on n just destroyed the guild n kicked people out its a !@#$ed up setup thats so bull im try n make it my job to piss off n just make is game a living hell just becasueu dont give to %^-*s about it thats just being a Narcissistic Cannibal u guys should have sent mail to the co gms that this kind of thing ws comeing up

They should of posted a E-mail to kleit or his wife notifying them about having x amount of time left

im make that guys life a living hell now since no one wants to do anything

u guys should realy warn people that this kind of thing can happen nice idea blizz

Preventative measures include:

A co-gm SLOT who gains control rather than the first person to log on and TAKE control.

Send a email to the CURRENT gm to raise awareness.

And lastly make the 30 day period changeable by the gm from 30 days to 12 months that way military members on deployments will have options.

I'm going to open a ticket to complain that GM Aganra doesn't know the difference between Threw and through, certainly not working as his high school English teacher intended.


Other than that, yet another inactive guild leader QQ thread.

Guys, the button hasn't changed anything, other than made the average guild member more aware that they don't have to suffer through a leaderless guild. Don't want your guild "stolen"? Then log in ONCE a MONTH. It's not hard, I assure you.

I just don't believe this is a fair system, there is alot of room for improvement that needs to be made here. It is just too easy for someone to have an issue and not be able to log on for a month and lose years worth of work from multiple people to create a guild. Anything could happen ie: job, school, injury, military, anything of that nature. It's not right to say hey just log in once a month and keep our guild. extenuating circumstances!!

02/03/2012 10:05 PMPosted by Kyrexx

And lastly make the 30 day period changeable by the gm from 30 days to 12 months that way military members on deployments will have options.

THIS is absolutely not an option. EVERY guild master would change the inactive period up to 12 months just to completely prevent ever being taken over for inactiveness, with or without a legitimate reason for doing so, and that would actually represent a drastic change in Blizzard policy.



I mean guys, honestly, it looks like an entire GUILD has logged on the the R&GL forums to QQ about their guild being taken over.

The one thing that should be done in this situation? Open tickets to complain that it was a hostile take over. While the policy about taking over for inactive GMs is PERFECT as is, I'm pretty sure that even in these take over situations, a GM can take action against a player who abuses his new power by kick players en masse and removing extraordinary amounts of gold/items from the bank.



Other than that guys, the policy is as it always had been. We see these threads here on a weekly basis. You're not a special case. Moreover, there are hundreds of guilds per realm, one QQ thread per week doesn't represent this policy being bad for the majority. It works, and works well.

There were tickets opened to complain that it was hostile. read up and look at the links to see the GM response.

I looked at the screen shots. The tickets were open to complain that there was some sort of compromise. There wasn't a compromise. A compromise implies that the guild master's account was accessed by someone other than the guild master, who logged in, and then passed control of the guild over to someone else.

This isn't what happened. You guys took the wrong approach with the GM.

Open a new ticket and try the right approach and quit crying about the working, functioning policy that has been in place for 7 years.

"Freedom of Speech" is an Amendment to the constitution of the United States of America, and refers to the federal government of the United States and prohibits them from making laws inhibiting a citizen's right to free speech.

Freedom of Speech, however, is not some universal law that the world police is going to come arrest Blizzard for not adhering too. There are a lot of places where free speech is inhibited, and legally.

The first Amendment of the United States doesn't guarantee that all American citizens have freedom to use any kind of speech they want no matter what the circumstance or where they go. All it does is prohibit the federal government from outlawing any type of speech. Blizzard is still legally free to have their own set of rules for what kind of language is and isn't allowed in their game.



As for the rest of your post? If the game is too much stress for you, then quit. Seriously. Save your $15/month and go elsewhere. The game is intended to be fun. And literally MILLIONS of people have plenty of fun playing it. But just because millions are having fun playing it doesn't mean everyone will have fun playing it. There are billions of people in the world that are perfectly happy without WoW. And if it's stressing you out, I'd highly suggest, for your own health, you find a different hobby.

As for this idea of fixing something? There's nothing broken about the inactive guild master take over system. Sorry. There's just not.