Topic Undead Death Knights
Mario
Alexstrasza
Mario
15 Gnome Rogue
50
Wouldn't that be a double negative? Making them... alive-knights? :O
Karat
Anub'arak
Karat
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
8140
Nah, it just means that they need to get better at staying alive or staying dead.
Voltaris
Ysondre
Voltaris
85 Night Elf Warrior
1475
two wrongs do not make a right.
Frosthawk
Muradin
Frosthawk
85 Undead Death Knight
3955
Edited by Frosthawk on 2/6/12 4:24 PM (PST)
It makes me incredibly unlucky.

Technically, "Undead Death Knight" doesn't even qualify as redundant, as undeath is not a requirement for Death Knighthood.
Jovinda
Area 52
Jovinda
85 Troll Warlock
3200
undead Dk using lich born which makes you undead

What?
Goreaxe
Thrall
Goreaxe
85 Orc Shaman
3945
You die once and become an undead. Then you die again to become a Death Knight... so they're redead?
Nekrotic
Windrunner
Nekrotic
70 Undead Death Knight
1440
Edited by Nekrotic on 2/6/12 4:26 PM (PST)
It's true when a Forsaken is killed and re-raised as a death knight something breaks.. creating the Forsaken Paladin. Their suffering creates a renewed connection to the light.
Frosthawk
Muradin
Frosthawk
85 Undead Death Knight
3955
Edited by Frosthawk on 2/6/12 4:27 PM (PST)
02/06/2012 04:25 PMPosted by Goreaxe
You die once and become an undead. Then you die again to become a Death Knight... so they're redead?
Redead would be the state that happens between regular undead and Death Knight, i.e. death.

Undead Death Knights, thus, would be re-undead.
Erukafrog
Uldaman
Erukafrog
85 Blood Elf Mage
6260
thats why undead is cannon fodder. we can always reanimate them due to there inability to stay alive or stay undead.
Glorya
Sen'jin
Glorya
56 Worgen Hunter
510
You die once and become an undead. Then you die again to become a Death Knight... so they're redead?

NOOOO. Don't come near me! Sun's Song, Sun's Song!
Tharama
Ravenholdt
Tharama
85 Blood Elf Rogue
11610
Human of Lordaeron, dies.
Brought back by Lich King, breaks free.
Forsaken, dies.
Brought back Lich King and made Death Knight, breaks free.

Worst. History. Ever.
Kittaye
Perenolde
Kittaye
85 Blood Elf Hunter
7020
Poor, poor undead death knights.

They really need to stop getting in those situations.
Imlaan
Moon Guard
Imlaan
85 Draenei Paladin
2170
Edited by Imlaan on 2/6/12 4:45 PM (PST)
What about Blood Elf Blood Death Knights who where former Blood Knights before their blood blood blood in the blood blood blood. Knight.
Rodoll
Kel'Thuzad
Rodoll
85 Worgen Warrior
5060
Wouldn't this make more sense for an Undead DK?

Starts life as a human.
is killed by the plague
ressurected as a mindless undead
freed by sylvanas
at some point reinslaved by arthas
Freed a second time after becoming a DK.

It was my assumption that all DKs are undead regardless of race. The path of the Undead DK like the Worgen DK is just a bit more conveluted then most.
Cantus
Kilrogg
Cantus
80 Human Paladin
0
Human of Lordaeron, dies.
Brought back by Lich King, breaks free.
Forsaken, dies.
Brought back Lich King and made Death Knight, breaks free.

Worst. History. Ever.
You forgot the endless agony of fighting against the Lich King while watching yourself kill your loved ones...twice.
Egrem
Stormrage
Egrem
85 Human Paladin
12995
ressurected as a mindless undead
freed by sylvanas


The undead creatures that became "Forsaken" were actually freed by Illidan, who cast a spell that cracked the Frozen Throne and weakened Ner'zhul. Sylvanas simply rallied them.
Nomahska
Shu'halo
Nomahska
85 Orc Shaman
2380
Edited by Nomahska on 2/7/12 12:26 PM (PST)
The undead creatures that became "Forsaken" were actually freed by Illidan, who cast a spell that cracked the Frozen Throne and weakened Ner'zhul. Sylvanas simply rallied them.



pfft, details

yeah the foresaken that become Dks are twice dead and twice reanimated but there is a difference in the magic used to make foresaken which allows some degree of rot and the magic which creates DKS which is much much more powerful and rare and prevents any further decay.

addendum: the lesser necromancy creates a zombie that has no free will. Free will is established if the lesser necromancy is disrupted momentarily and the result is a foresaken with free will. If the Foresaken is re-killed it can subjected to the greater necromancy. The greater necromancy creates a Death Knight which has inherent autonomy; Death Knights have enough autonomy to choose to rebel.
Draelik
Emerald Dream
Draelik
81 Night Elf Death Knight
725
Edited by Draelik on 2/7/12 12:33 PM (PST)
Human of Lordaeron, dies.
Brought back by Lich King, breaks free.
Forsaken, dies.
Brought back Lich King and made Death Knight, breaks free.

Worst. History. Ever.


The Forsaken NPC forsaken DKs have to kill in the starting area chides you for this.

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Come to finish the job, have you?

Ironic, isn't it? To be killed...
<name>?

<name>, I'd recognize that decay anywhere... What... What have they done to you, <name>?

You don't remember me, do you? We were humans once - long, long ago - until Lordaeron fell to the Scourge. Your transformation to a Scourge zombie came shortly after my own. Not long after that, our minds were freed by the Dark Lady.

A pact was made, brother! We vowed vengeance against the Lich King! For what he had done to us! We battled the Scourge as Forsaken, pushing them back into the plaguelands and freeing Tirisfal! You and I were champions of the Forsaken!

Listen to me, <name>. You must fight against the Lich King's control. He is a monster that wants to see this world - our world - in ruin.

Don't let him use you to accomplish his goals AGAIN. You were once a hero and you can be again. Fight, damn you! Fight his control!

Knight Commander Plaguefist yells: What's going on in there? What's taking so long, <name>?

There... There's no more time for me. I'm done for. Finish me off, <name>. Do it or they'll kill us both.

<name>... Remember Tirisfal! This world is worth saving!
Do it, <name>! Put me out of my misery!
Heavybeard
Earthen Ring
Heavybeard
85 Dwarf Warrior
1190
First they were alive.
Then they died.
Then they were alive again.
Then they died again.
Now they're alive again.

At this point even Jean Grey is saying "Jeez, dude, just stay down already."
Thuranda
Wyrmrest Accord
Thuranda
85 Tauren Druid
2885
What about when an Undead Death Knight dies in game and is a ghost? Then you have him triply undead!

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