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Academy Awards - Good Movies they've snubbed
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Edited by Neeshka on 2/12/12 4:22 PM (PST)
The academy awards seem to be completely out of touch with what makes good cinema. It's surprising to see movies praised year after year; getting 90%+ on RT and adored by audiences, and then getting completely snubbed at the oscars.
If I wanted to see entertaining or even great movies the academy awards aren't a very good yardstick to pick them. Movies snubbed by the oscars: Psycho Taxi Driver Goodfellas Shawshank Redemption Fargo Godfather (no best director) Saving Private Ryan (remember guys shakespeare in love got best picture that year) 2001 Space Odyssey Vertigo Rear Window The Birds King Kong North by Northwest Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Dark Knight Metropolis Star Wars The Innocents Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs The Shining Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind Carrie Empire of the Sun Amelie Mulholland Drive Any Harry potter movie (entire series completely snubbed) Drive Let the Right One In Blade Runner Alfred Hitchcock and Stanley Kubrick getting completely snubbed by the academy awards is most puzzling. Similarly so is how the oscars seem to completely ignore anything that is science fiction, horror or fantasy. |
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Mulholland Drive? David Lynch blows.
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Edited by Mxyzptlk on 2/15/12 10:42 PM (PST)
I agree with you on some movies and not so much on others. Most of the movies they went up against were also excellent films. Most of the movies listed were also nominated for one category or another, so you'll have to specify how exactly they were snubbed.
Hitchcock won a Best Picture for Rebecca (Selznick picked it up) and Kubrick's films won numerous Oscars. Did they get beat out for Best Director? Well, yeah. So did Kurosawa who wasn't even considered. Billy Wilder only won one Best Director for The Apartment. The same goes for Francis Ford Coppola with Godfather II. The only guys I can think of off-hand who got a ton of Best Directors were John Ford and Frank Capra back in the 30's/40's. ALSO: The Dark Knight? Maybe for Heath Ledger's Joker... oh, wait he did win one for that. Seriously, if Nolan deserved any accolades (I assume we're talking Directors only here), it should have been for Following. Dark Knight was a jumbled mess with editing so shoddy it felt like an extended trailer. The only reason to watch the movie at all is for Heath Ledger. ALSO Also: Before any argument ensues, have you seen Rope by Hitchcock? It's one of my all-time favorites. If you haven't, give it a watch. I noticed you listed a lot of Hitch so you'll probably love it if you haven't. |
The academy awards seem to be completely out of touch with what makes good cinema. It's surprising to see movies praised year after year; getting 90%+ on RT and adored by audiences, and then getting completely snubbed at the oscars. Unfortunately Forest Gump destroyed Shawhank's chance to get any awards even though Shawshank was a better movie imo. I was really pissed that Drive got ignored this year. There can be ten nomination slots for best movie and instead of giving the tenth slot to the best movie of the year(imo), they left it blank! Let the Right One in is easily one of my favorite movies ever. I was very disappointed when I didn't see it in the best foreign language film category. After doing some research(lolwikipedialol) I realized it was the Swedish Film Institutes fault, not the Academy's. I can go on all day about some of the Academy's decisions, but I'll just leave it with agreeing that more genres need to be considered as Oscar potential. |
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Im positive that hugo, although being a superb heart-warming film by a god tier director (scorcese is probably in my top 5), it will get snubbed.
Why ? because it's a childrenz fantasy film. Fantasy --> HELL NO I'm suprised that LoTR got any oscars at all, the old farts at the academy hate that kind of film. |
Watchmen. The Watchmen movie was terrible, hate to break it to you. |
Remember Tom Hanks blowing up a tank with a pistol!? That movie while great but was little more then a fluff piece. |
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You forgot:
GOOOOOOOOD MORNING VIETNAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Butch Casidy and the Sundance kid. |
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Drive was not that good. The opening scene was tense and exciting, sure, but the rest of the movie draaaaaggged. The dialogue was so slow paced and laden with pauses that it made No Country For Old Men look like His Girl Friday.
I liked it, and it was nice to see Al Brooks play a character so wildly miscast and do well at it, but the movie was not Oscar worthy in any respect. |
Watchmen. Not trying to be rude, but are you one of those 12yo kids who expects eye popping CGI stuffed non-sense action every 10 minutes from a superhero movie? |
Watchmen.Watchmen was horrible. And not because of the naked guy, I didn't care about that. It was just boring and dumb. |
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Edited by Octala on 2/19/12 5:46 PM (PST)
In order to win an Academy Award these days you just have to make a politically charged movie/social commentary with a lot of sex or drug use. Telling a good, entertaining story with interesting characters and good writing is how people used to make their living in Hollywood. Now you just have to push a certain philosophy or issue to get an award, your movie itself is actually quite irrelevant.
I don't know about Kubrick, but I do know that Hitchcock just didn't fit in well with the entire LA set. He preferred to stay at home with his dogs and read books than go hob-knob at cocktail parties, that probably had a lot to do with it. Same with George C. Scott, he hated the academy and everything it stood for. |
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Edited by Rza on 2/22/12 12:34 PM (PST)
Saving Private Ryan First time I saw Saving Private Ryan I was blown away. Now that I've seen it many times I have come to realize its not that great a movie. It is a modernized WWII movie lifted directly from any b&w war film. The token gruff Capt'n, the token clumsy nerd, the token all-american, the token jewish guy, the token Italian guy, the token sensitive medic and the token cool as a cucumber sniper. Americans alone storming Normandy no help needed from Britain or Canada tyvm. This is why the world hates Americans. So many cliches and overly sappy and the ending with the tank is just lol. Its not so much a WWII movie than a sandbox for Speilberg to play in and conduct his wartime fantasies. He is so proud of his work he refuses it to be shown on networks unedited. lol at that. |
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Edited by Emyi on 2/22/12 12:58 PM (PST)
Where did you get this? Granted I haven't seen it in a long time, but I don't remember this being implied at all in the movie. The beginning shows like 100 feet of shoreline and you expect all the allied countries to be represented in one little area? |
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It seems that if a movie pushes the envelope in some way, or has controversial content, it will get nominated even though the movie isn't necessarily good. I think too the voters who nominate and vote on what they feel are the best movies may be influenced by the movie's subject or their own personal opinions, and not by the quality of the movie itself.
Some movies that are really good were released in a year where there was lots of competition. While some times the opposite is true. A movie wins an oscar because, well, there's no other movie that competes, and someone has to win. Over time, a lot of movies which initially failed at the box office or received little attention come to be recognized for just how good they really are. Movies like Shawshank Redemption, Casablanca, and It's a Wonderful Life come to mind. |
