How is my build?

90 Blood Elf Paladin
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Rosewill power supplies aren't that bad, but they definitely aren't the best of the quality. With power supplies, you literally get what you pay for.

(My old build had one that powered Q6600 + power hungry HD 4870 1GB, never failed, but of course... YMMV...)

If you don't care for heat spreaders on the RAM, you can get really cheap RAM like G.Skill Value series.650W is more than enough for a single GTX 680. Rumor has it the GTX 680 consumes less power than 7970, which already can be powered sufficiently on high-quailty 500W part.
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Just want to post an update on my build:

Parts already purchased:

Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III - $280
EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 - $500

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To be purchased:

Case: Cooler Master HAF X - $185
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-3570K – $230
Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler - $35
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 - $47
A Z77 MoBo - $??
CORSAIR Enthusiast 650W - $90
DVD Drive - $19

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Now that it's getting closer to Ivy Bridge, I'm just going to get a Z77 MoBo. How much will a good one cost you think?

Also, a friendly strongly recommended that I do not get ASROCK MoBos. He has one and complained something about "Korean letters" and that it's ASUS's "experimental" brand. Is this BS?

This damned wait, want it to be over!
Edited by Ult on 3/30/2012 7:24 PM PDT
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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Similar to what good Z68 will cost: $130~$150.

The hell is he talking about Korean letters? Lol.

ASRock was formerly ASUS's sub-brand that used to sell lower-end boards, and yes, produced some very... unique motherboards. ASUS made ASRock because ASUS wanted to break into lower-end market, and also try various different interesting technologies, but they didn't want to bet their ASUS brand name on them.

For example, they once produced a Pentium 4 Northwood motherboard that supported all the way to Core2Duo CPUs. Another motherboard they produced supported both AGP and PCI-E graphics. Fairly recently, they produced Intel Sandy Bridge P67-chipset based LGA 1156 motherboard for first generation Intel i-series CPUs.

ASRock is now separate entity and they now sell all the way from lowest end to highest end.
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85 Tauren Warrior
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The hell is he talking about Korean letters? Lol.



Lol, no idea - gonna have to check with him on this again, but otherwise thanks for clearing that up.

Is there any value in going for RAM that has even higher speed? G.Skill has some 1866 ram for like $3 more (with promo code) 8GB, and only $13 or so more for 2133 speeds. I recall reading that the speed doesn't make a huge difference, but the cost difference to up the speed isn't huge either. Since it's so cheap, shouldn't I just default to the highest speed ram or no?
Edited by Ult on 3/30/2012 7:36 PM PDT
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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For Sandy / Ivy, there is no real need to go beyond DDR3-1600, but if you want to go all the way, go for it.

Be aware that beyond 1600 is considered "overclocked", and not all motherboard supports all these speeds. Check before you buy.
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85 Tauren Warrior
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Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III - $280
EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 - $500
Case: Cooler Master HAF X - $185
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-3570K – $230
Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler - $35
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 - $47
A Z77 MoBo - $150
CORSAIR Enthusiast 650W - $90
DVD Drive - $19

Total: $1536

Man, this is really going to turn out well (given no DoA crap, but even that isn't so bad). I tried getting a PC build together on Cyberpower just for comparison sake, with similar/as good-quality parts and their total came out to $1801 - they didn't really have any good power supply options either.

Also checked Alienware for the hell of it. Their starter desktop (not the slim one) starts at the SAME price as this build I have, yet it has parts that are much worse.

8GB Quad Channel DDR3 at 2133MHz [Add $100.00 or $3.00/month]


I LOLed, - it only costs $15 more to upgrade from 1600 to 2133 on Newegg, and Alienware charges $100. Every other upgrade on there means massive $$$ too!!

Thanks a lot :)
Edited by Ult on 3/30/2012 7:58 PM PDT
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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Of course, but like Apple fanboys, some people don't mind spending $$$$$ more for the same stuff. ;)

No problem. You'll love it when the time comes around. :D
Edited by Kalganized on 3/30/2012 8:04 PM PDT
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85 Tauren Warrior
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What do you have to say about this PSU?

CORSAIR Professional Series HX650
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012

$129.99 but I think this is before the 15% off promo code?

The Professional series are the only ones that I find at this level with 5 egg review level. Seems people think they are much quieter than enthusiast ones.

Worth the premium?
Edited by Ult on 3/30/2012 8:48 PM PDT
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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No, not really.

I use Enthusiast (old version too), and only noise I hear out of my computer are the four fans that power Corsair H100 push-pull.
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85 Tauren Warrior
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I can't really tell what the difference is between Dell U2410 and Dell 2412M, both are IPS, 1900x1200, and 16:10 o_O

What do they add for the extra $200 in price?
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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Panel bit depth

U2410 uses true 8-bit color bit depth
U2412M uses 6-bit color + trick
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85 Tauren Warrior
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Hey Kal,

I recently read over your guide (great post!) and just developed a few questions about the SSDs.

I already purchased a 256GB Crucial M4 SSD, but this was before I knew that the "Corsair Performance Pro" and "Intel 520" were faster. Perhaps had I known, I would have gone with one of those - AKA buyer's remorse.

Can't go back now, but do have a few questions:

1) I got the 256GB Crucial M4 SSD for $279.99 (currently 299.99 and is usually $339 on Newegg). But would it have been worth spending some $50-70 more to go with Corsair performance pro or intel 520?

Here are the speeds/price of each:

Crucial M4 - (got for $280)
Read Speed - 500
Write Speed - 260

Corsair Performance Pro - $349.99
Read Speed - 515
Write Speed - 540

Intel 520 - $351.99
Read Speed - 550
Write Speed - 520

2) Can you describe the functions of read and write, which is more important? (I take it read, as I think that would mean loading things like WoW).

3) The M4 has very similar read speeds (only slightly less) than the other two. How will I be penalized for having about half the WRITE speed? Will the write speed still be faster than normal HDDS?

Thanks :)
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90 Blood Elf Paladin
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You will note that read speed is for the most part, fairly close (except for Intel). Write speed is not really a huge deal since bulk of your usage with the system will be reading the data rather than writing.

But if you wanted best of the best, and you don't mind spending more, it would have been better to go with more expensive SSD.

Yes, read speed is more important in the end. Faster reading time = less time you spend waiting for things to load. Write speed is just that, speed (MB/sec) of writing data to the disk. After Windows + programs are set up, I don't foresee many situations in which where you have to write tens of gigabytes to the hard disk at once. Even then (game installs), it's just one-time deal anyway.

260MB/sec is still more than double the write speed of most 7200RPM hard drives.
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85 Tauren Warrior
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04/03/2012 06:43 PMPosted by Kalganized
You will note that read speed is for the most part, fairly close (except for Intel).


The increase with intel is only 30 over Corsair and 50 over M4 in read speeds (500-550). This doesn't come across as that much of a difference to me? Maybe .5 sec faster loading times? Seems minuscule compared to the difference in write speeds.
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