Topic The HofA mount gives an unfair advantage
Moldronn
Darkspear
Moldronn
1 Human Priest
0
Edited by Moldronn on 2/15/12 4:49 PM (PST)
Because when you mount it as a ground mount, its speed doesn't get slowed down while moving in water. (Not diving.)

I don't know if this is intentional but if it is, it's disgusting and I advice you to remove it as this makes a huge difference in PvP bgs such as Arathi Basin and Twin Peaks.
Ramenshaman
Frostmourne
Ramenshaman
85 Tauren Shaman
2450
Edited by Ramenshaman on 2/15/12 4:48 PM (PST)
Because when you mount it as a ground mount, its speed doesn't get slowed down while moving in water. (Not diving.)

I don't know if this is intentional but if it is, it's disgustening and I advice you to remove it as this makes a huge difference in PvP bgs such as Arathi Basin and Twin Peaks.

I'm amazed you don't have a single DK to use Frost Path in your bg.

Disgustening?
Quendo
Jubei'Thos
Quendo
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
6080
so does path of frost and water walking... if your not using either of them, or any of the other abilities that let you walk on water, you, or the person responsible for those abilities are bad and should feel bad. BTW Turtle mounts move fast in water, NERF FOR BG!!
Icelance
Uldaman
Icelance
85 Goblin Mage
3430
dont !@#$ing nerf that. thats awesome.
Moldronn
Darkspear
Moldronn
1 Human Priest
0
Edited by Moldronn on 2/15/12 4:55 PM (PST)
You guys don't see the problem do you? The problem is this mount is better than any other and if you don't use it you will have an unadvantage when you don't have a DK or a shaman right on the spot.

Turtle mounts I can live with as they don't increase movement speed on ground unless you have crusader aura or something similar.

02/15/2012 04:51 PMPosted by Icelance
dont !@#$ing nerf that. thats awesome.

It might be yes, but the only mount with this feature is a mount you buy with real money, which is stupid in my eyes.
Moldronn
Darkspear
Moldronn
1 Human Priest
0
Edited by Moldronn on 2/15/12 5:00 PM (PST)
Moral of the story is, if the game requires a monthly subscription, then microtransactions should always be cosmetic and shouldn't ever give an unfair advantage to someone else.

So blizzard please remove this.
Advicetroll
Norgannon
Advicetroll
10 Troll Warlock
40
Sounds like a bug. The moral of the story is not that micro transactions are bad but that you should report them so they get fixed.
Millsa
Proudmoore
Millsa
85 Draenei Death Knight
2800
Edited by Millsa on 2/15/12 5:03 PM (PST)
02/15/2012 04:59 PMPosted by Moldronn
shouldn't ever give an unfair advantage to someone else.
Define that. Because DK's walking/ mounted running on water could be VERY unfair in PvP.

Druids being able to shift out of roots and creatively use flight form could be unfair too.

Also, you can summon a mount in combat? Or is it just that mount? because if you can't summon it, you can't exploit it.

Lastly, if all else fails, blizz will hotfix all that.
Moldronn
Darkspear
Moldronn
1 Human Priest
0
Edited by Moldronn on 2/15/12 5:12 PM (PST)
shouldn't ever give an unfair advantage to someone else.
Define that. Because DK's walking/ mounted running on water could be VERY unfair in PvP.

Druids being able to shift out of roots and creatively use flight form could be unfair too.

Also, you can summon a mount in combat? Or is it just that mount? because if you can't summon it, you can't exploit it.

Lastly, if all else fails, blizz will hotfix all that.

Your counterarguments are invalid towards my argument. Microtransactions shouldn't give you something more superior than what you can get ingame, and this mount clearly gives you one.
Tujag
Kel'Thuzad
Tujag
60 Tauren Druid
800
wow if this is true and it doesn't get removed just gos to show how much blizzard has lost touch with its game
Nyzul
Boulderfist
Nyzul
85 Blood Elf Rogue
5495
Edited by Nyzul on 2/15/12 5:18 PM (PST)
Tested this with my mount ( I bought the dragon mount yesterday) and was still moving slow though the water like all non water mounts. I was going slower then ground mount speed.

Maybe you have the usual movement speed hackers, using their cheats on mounts now. Or it is lag, some people might be bugged, but prob people using third party programs to make their mounts swim faster.

It isn't the mount causing this, as it isn't giving my characters a fast swimming speed. ( yes from on the ground and through the water, not diving in)
Mouthwash
Trollbane
Mouthwash
14 Gnome Mage
0
I've noticed lately that (regardless of what mount I am using) if I spam the jump button while swimming through the top of water, I move at normal mounted speed.
Yarf
Black Dragonflight
Yarf
90 Undead Mage
6150
Maybe it's just a bug, and instead of freaking out, you should report it. You know...like a bug.
Moldronn
Darkspear
Moldronn
1 Human Priest
0
Edited by Moldronn on 2/15/12 5:20 PM (PST)
Tested this with my mount ( I bought the dragon mount yesterday) and was still moving slow though the water like all non water mounts. I was going slower then ground mount speed.

Maybe you have the usual movement speed hackers, using their cheats on mounts now. Or it is lag, some people might be bugged, but prob people using third party programs to make their mounts swim faster.

It isn't the mount causing this, as it isn't giving my characters a fast swimming speed. ( yes from on the ground and through the water, not diving in)

It only works if you don't have flying or you're in a nonflying zone.

02/15/2012 05:19 PMPosted by Yarf
Maybe it's just a bug, and instead of freaking out, you should report it. You know...like a bug.

Isn't that what I'm doing right now?
Stoutlager
Arathor
Stoutlager
86 Dwarf Hunter
3130
Edited by Stoutlager on 2/15/12 5:21 PM (PST)
02/15/2012 05:19 PMPosted by Moldronn
Isn't that what I'm doing right now?

The bug report forum is where you'd want to post it.

And yes, that does sound like something that should be fixed, if it is true.
Trygveseim
Mal'Ganis
Trygveseim
90 Night Elf Priest
6915
If this is identified as 'working as intended' Blizzard has officially crossed into selling advantages for cash.
This is huge for some classes. Prior to them fixing the dolphin mount bug, I could easily escape if caught in the water. Drop fear, break combat, mount up and I'm gone. Now that its fixed, I'm stranded, and it's working as intended.

Currently this is the only reason I see to having this mount.

Though I believe its a bug that will get fixed.
Nyzul
Boulderfist
Nyzul
85 Blood Elf Rogue
5495
I just tested it on my level 51 druid (has no flying whatsoever) and the golden dragon mount still went slow in the water.

I think it is a player (cheats) or bug caused. Heck could just be a bug in battlegrounds unless you have seen or tested it yourself out side of them.
Yarf
Black Dragonflight
Yarf
90 Undead Mage
6150
02/15/2012 05:20 PMPosted by Stoutlager
Isn't that what I'm doing right now?


I don't know. Disgustening sounds more like freaking out than reporting.
Zerron
Tanaris
Zerron
60 Worgen Warrior
4590
I have the HotA mount and I move slower on water than I do on land.

Maybe it only happens sometimes? Either way, if it is happening (even sparingly) it should get fixed.
Millsa
Proudmoore
Millsa
85 Draenei Death Knight
2800
02/15/2012 05:12 PMPosted by Moldronn
Your counterarguments are invalid towards my argument.
okay,


How are you the authority on what is invalid and what is? I mean, doesn't that have to be somebody with a degree in arguing and officially sanctioned for this argument? Since when could a debater simply discredit someone else points as "invalid" and suddenly be the correct person?

Also, i was asking questions. if you aren't gonna answer then don't. how the heck is a question "invalid' anyways? i asked a question and explained why I was asking. but your answer is "invalid"? i'm gonna try that one day.

Hey bro. Do you know where I can buy a buss pass?

"Your counterarguments are invalid towards my argument
"

I wonder how far that'll fly?

My bad, I can't ask questions because they are invalid. or maybe to you, invalid means "Oh, I never thought of that and I don't have any real answer for you. maybe I should have thought this complaint out a little more before posting on the forums hiding behind my highly respected shady alt"

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