02/21/2012 01:46 PMI disagree with smoke bomb removing spirit link I think that that is fair, I am fine with the rest of the changes. Your idea for how to solve the PvE issue is great. I can't remember if you said this or not but trinkets and such should only not work in RBGs and arena. Since a lot of players in random bgs are still gearing you can't completely screw them over by removing the buffs. However and this is coming from a rogue (dagger proc and vial) PvE procs and gear should be entirely removed from rated PvP
Posted by Hattrix
Hey, I'm an Unholy DK with a Normal Gurthalak and Bone Link Fetish. I don't think anyone with these weapons doesn't think they need to be removed.
nerfing dodge gains from agility is a fairly passive and tame option, and should have been done ages ago, if you would prefer, we could bump up parry gains from str to 4x what they are now so that DK's and Warriors can run around with 35-40% parry at all times, then we can see the constant rogue/feral complaints stream in.
In Cat Form I have basically 30% dodge and 32% DR from armor.
You have 47% DR from armor, 5% dodge and almost 14% parry. You get an extra 17% damage reduction against physical hits at all times while we get an extra 11% melee reduction at all times (remember, we can't dodge Hunters but you can soak their damage).
Physical vs. physical, you have more reduction, albeit less binary reduction; try attacking from behind instead of QQ'ing from the front.
What kind of armor do you have in bear form? You also have 25% dodge, +what you gain from talents (+6% from Natural Reaction, for example) and Nurturing Instinct. I think Feral survivability in cat form, and Bear form with CD's popped, is fine, I think Feral's passive melee mitigation in Bear Form is too powerful. And 'attack from behind' is not really an argument when you have +30% running speed and multiple ways of getting behind opponents. Even if we had to buff other survivability tools to compensate, the dodge route is clunky and bad design.
I'd say make cyclones cast via Predator's Swiftness are dispellable. The survivability in bear I'll have to think about, as I really don't want Bear Tanks to be hurt in the collateral.
I made instant-clone dispellable. I was thinking about doing it to Cyclone in general, but don't think it would really be fair to the other specs. I also removed the Spirit Link no longer broken by Smokebomb, as Restoration Shamans are powerful enough as is and it didn't seem to well received.