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According to various searches and queries, destro has the lowest dps of the 3 classes of warlock. Answers I have gotten regarding this include.. respec to another class. Guess what? I pay my $14.99 per month just like every other player, of every other class, and every other spec. I don't particularly care what the Devs have to do to fix this, JUST GET IT FIXED! I am sick to Flippin death of spending a boat load of gold on reforging, respecing, regemming, regearing, reglyphing and now come to find out, it makes not one flippin bit of difference, because destro is nerfed so badly that it can't even keep up with the other 2 warlock specs. And don't you DARE respond with a comment even remotely HINTING at "maybe in the next patch......."
Am I POed? You bet your bootie I am. We've been ignored for over a year and a half, I am not the first person to post on this topic, and don't think a paltry increase of a few percentage points is going to make up for the massive nerfing you did when cata came out. I should be able to get at LEAST the same dps as some 12 yr old playing a dk spamming 3 buttons, or a hunter spamming steady shot. So which ever blizz employee that happens to read this, i suggest you copy it to note pad, print it off hard copy, and staple it to a DEVS forehead with a carpet stapler. Maybe they will get the idea.

02/21/2012 08:40 PMPosted by Garregish

I pay my $14.99 per month just like every other player, of every other class, and every other spec.

Yes, and everyone pays the same $14.99 per month for the same thing - access to the 250 realms. Do you have that?

You would be better off posting this in the Warlock forum, Garregish, rather than CSF. No one here is in a position to pass this on to the people that need to see it.

If you have suggestions as to how Destro warlocks can be improved, that is. "Just get it fixed" isn't really constructive, unfortunately. How should they fix it? What needs to be improved, what needs to be changed, etc.

There is a Specific Class forum In which you can make simple suggestions. Secondly Your tone is so in such a horrible condition that it will not get things anywhere, thirdly no where in the game does it say they OWE you a spec upgrade, nor do they guarantee the spec to be as good as the rest. you pay to play a game, respec if its that big of a deal. if one spec is better why fight like crazy to make a horrible one better? keep calm and carry on my friend.

If you have constructive feedback to give the Devs about Warlock DPS, you would want to post it on the Warlock Forums. The Devs do not get feedback from the Support Forums on in-game mechanics like this.

Just a note, there is ALWAYS going to be a spec and a build that is a little higher then the others in a class. You have two choices. Go with the spec of the month, or stick to what you like. Keep in mind that theoretical max DPS doesn't mean much. A lot of it depends on who is playing the toon and their ability with that class. A terrible affliction lock is not going to out DPS a great destro lock.

Not my job to tell them how to fix it I didn't tell them how to break it. What ever needs to be done, to balance out the formula, the devs get paid big money, partially out of my pocket, to do just that.

02/21/2012 08:44 PMPosted by Ainsley

I pay my $14.99 per month just like every other player, of every other class, and every other spec.

Yes, and everyone pays the same $14.99 per month for the same thing - access to the 250 realms. Do you have that?

What does my realm have to do with anything?

02/21/2012 08:49 PMPosted by Garregish

Not my job to tell them how to fix it I didn't tell them how to break it. What ever needs to be done, to balance out the formula, the devs get paid big money, partially out of my pocket, to do just that.

Then you need to post, calmly and constructively, on the Warlock forum. Posting here really won't get you anywhere.

02/21/2012 08:49 PMPosted by Garregish

Not my job to tell them how to fix it I didn't tell them how to break it. What ever needs to be done, to balance out the formula, the devs get paid big money, partially out of my pocket, to do just that.

Then as the others mentioned you'll want to take that to the Warlock Forums, there are no developers here.

02/21/2012 08:52 PMPosted by Garregish

Yes, and everyone pays the same $14.99 per month for the same thing - access to the 250 realms. Do you have that?

What does my realm have to do with anything?

That's what you pay for. Access to the realm.

02/21/2012 08:49 PMPosted by Garregish

Not my job to tell them how to fix it

You're exactly right. It isn't your job. Because of this, there is an added obligation to someone like yourself to express themselves eloquently, and to be informed when doing so. Otherwise you aren't telling them anything that they can not gleam for themselves from their own internal numbers and sources.

If you do not take it upon yourself to express yourself this way, your feedback is almost completely meaningless and without context or insight.

Currently, the only thing that can be gleamed from your feedback is that 3rd party sources are telling you your DPS is low and that you experiment with different builds. That's it.

In order for your feedback to be meaningful, you need to demonstrate that you, yourself, understand the mechanics of your class (and in saying that, I am not saying you don't, so lets' not get hung up on that statement), that you understand the data that gives insight into why your spec may or may not be "broken" rather than just demonstrating that you heard this from somewhere.

After this, it never hurts to spitball some ideas as to what could be improved. Do you just want to see yourself higher on Recount? Do you want a specific spell to hit harder because that spell is the one you think of as a nuke?

Popping in and saying "Destro broken kkthxsbai" isn't going get anyone's attention. I'd encourage you to flesh your thoughts out a bit if you feel strongly about it.

One thing that might help your DPS a little would be to get a head enchant and upgrade the blue gear via the dungeon finder.

You would be better off posting this in the Warlock forum, Garregish, rather than CSF. No one here is in a position to pass this on to the people that need to see it.

If you have suggestions as to how Destro warlocks can be improved, that is. "Just get it fixed" isn't really constructive, unfortunately. How should they fix it? What needs to be improved, what needs to be changed, etc.

I actually would, it there were a clear and concise LINK to an actual place where these messages would get to a dev. You in CS need to stop passing the buck around, and do some customer support, move the thread, send an email, I don't actually care.
OH, and btw.. this topic has been posted in warlock forums, repeatedly, on numerous occasions, and still nothing is done to fix it. HOWEVER, I will simply copy and paste the op to the lock forums. Either way, the proper message IS being received by people googling about low dps from destro locks.

02/21/2012 09:30 PMPosted by Garregish

I actually would, it there were a clear and concise LINK to an actual place where these messages would get to a dev.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/1012670/

There you go.

02/21/2012 09:30 PMPosted by Garregish

You in CS need to stop passing the buck around, and do some customer support, move the thread, send an email, I don't actually care.

This isn't the equivalent of an all encompassing help desk. It is a player assist forum. No one is passing the buck. You're simply not posting in the correct forum.

The Support Forum Agents that moderate this forum do only that- moderate this forum. They do not make changes to the game nor do they relay feedback to the people that do. That is the job of the community managers, and they can be found in every forum other than support forums, realm forums, and the New Player forum.

02/21/2012 09:28 PMPosted by Flatspriest

One thing that might help your DPS a little would be to get a head enchant and upgrade the blue gear via the dungeon finder.

A little, isn't enough to help when you are over 30% lower than the next spec, both in pvp and pve. I actually have it on my other set, i just haven't put it on this set. Just started fooling with pvp as a lock, pvp isn't what I am talking about. What I am talking about, is the massive difference between affl, demon and destro. affl and demon are fairly close, and destro just fails and now falls 30%+ behind in dps. That is what my issue is. not in my gear, but in the mechanics of the build itself.

i never felt destro lacking with my lock, I know I dont have the best gear in the world but I can hold my own. Items arent solely your DPS its your rotation, build and what not.

Back in wrath I was in sub-par gear out dpsing people in raid gear for the shear fact I knew how to play my class better than others.

I do not have any problems dps wise with destro, I do not care what any 3rd party web site says. No, your issue is, you are reading what other people are saying and jumping on the bandwagon.

That is nice of you to support the 3rd party bandwagon people, but doing so here is not going to help. You need to post a constructive suggestive thread over in the Warlock forum. I know there are many threads on this subject over there already, maybe you can add something to them.

Pro tip: "Fix it Now" is not constructive. If I saw a thread that said that I would skip it entirely because it gives absolutely no information for me to assimilate. Now if the thread said, "Hey, I have noticed that destruction Warlocks fall behind the other specs because.....(fill in the blank here)". That kind of thread would get my attention quick because I want to know what to fix and why people think Destro has problems.

Destro is currently the TOP warlock spec on Morchok, Hagara, Ultraxion and Spine heroic. It is the bottom warlock spec on Yor'sahj.

That's 4 fights where it's the top spec, and ONE where it's the worst.

I'm not sure how that equates to it being the lowest DPS spec?

http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Spec_Score/25N/100/14/90/default/

There you go, Destro is tied with Demo, and ahead of Affliction since patch 4.3. Sounds like the problem is the operator, not the spec.