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Guild Halls?
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Not sure this is the best place for this, and the idea is also not mine, I just like it.
I'd like to at some point see an instanced area accessible only to guild members (like how the Champion's Hall / Hall of Legends was back during vanilla, though specific to people in your guild rather than people of a certain rank) I want to leave the idea vague but some thoughts about what could be in the Guild Hall A bar A vault Tributes to achievements (wall decorations, statues, fountains) Simple vendors / Guild vendors I also don't think this would interfere much with world pvp as has been brought up before. With the right motivation people will leave cities for the same reason as they would leave a Guild Hall. The idea is to give Guild members a group to be together, as well as more of a reward system for achievements. Thoughts?? |
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This issue has been addressed many times.
Regarless the idea's merit, Blizz has said, "No." It falls under the category of character and/or guild "housing" and they're publicly nixed it. The following are three Blizz quotes: we don't feel that we need any new ways for players to hide themselves away. If possible we at least like people to be hanging around in the cities, if not out in the world.” (emphasis added)Ask the Devs #6: Guild Advancement (Answers) – 4-27-2011, Hosted by Community Manager Kaivax http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2416158906 Plus…During the Gamescom 2010, Tom Chilton declared that “housing will be introduced to World of Warcraft some time right after "never". And…(paraphrased from a recent player post) -- A dev at the 2011 Blizzcon said they will not do player/guild housing as it will require all the work of a content patch. So if you want a patch that has no new raid, no instances, no extra gear, nothing but a stupid house to sit in for all of 35 minutes, then you may have housing. Regardless how you look at it, it's a dead issue. Sorry. |
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It WOULD appease us RPers though. My guild longs for one.
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Blizzard does not want housing in WoW.
They even went so far as to remove the placeholder portals that were meant for player housing in SW/ORG when they redid the major cities for Cata. |
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Housing proponents seem to miss the essential point of what kind of resource hogs housing (in whatever form) is/can be.
How many dungeons are there in the game... total? I mean count up every dungeon from Vanilla through Cata. Each is referred to as an instance. It has the ability to create "private" or segregated activity for more than one group simultaneously. There can be 1k 5-mans going on in the same place at the same time and they never meet eachother. Housing requires instances. And not just one or two, or even a few dozen. At a minimum... absolute minimum... it would require an instance for every player in the game, world wide. How many dungeons are there again? And we would have to add another ~10-million more? Oh, it gets better. Optimally, since this would be for characters, there should be one for every character in the game, worldwide. Now many is that? Anyone have a hard number? We're limited to only 50 characters apiece. So ~10-million players X 50 toons @ = 1/2 a Billion instances! What kind of freaking resources would that take -- memory, storyage space, server speed, blah, blah, blah... how much? And you people want this so you can play Holly Homemaker's Digital Home Depot Designer DIY? Get real. |
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I like how City of Heroes did it tbh.
Supergroup Bases. Then your SG would get a new currency from doing guild related stuff and you would build your base. The idea was to be able to raid attack other groups bases as in a type of guild wafare (much like an RBG) Nothing wrong with that. And to another point. Blizzard imo has successfully gotten everyone to sit in the cities.. and thats it. If you want to go somewhere, you just portal to the instance, come back and sit and q. (Bit of a segway counterpoint) |
Housing was "on the table" before the game ever launched. But the more they looked into it, the more troublesome it became until they finally shelved it for good. As stated above, they even removed the instance placeholders they had originally installed in anticipation. They are the "professionals". They know what it takes (in every sense) to make it happen. They have decided it isn't worth it. I'm sure they looked at "simpler" alternatives. I give them credit for having done their "due diligence" and in investigating it. In the final analysis, they have decided against it. Dream all you want, but it won't happen. I requote: During the Gamescom 2010, Tom Chilton declared that “housing will be introduced to World of Warcraft some time right after "never". What is it about that you don't understand? |
Every major city has empty buildings you could use. Find one a bunch of you like and meet there. Why should they create something new when there's places already available? Be creative in your own right, stop relying on them to do everything for you. |
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I say after 'Titan' or whatever is released, they can change WoW and open it to a whole other population by adding housing~ the amount of time and effort invested in that I'd never leave WoW, even for Titan!
...wait, don't do it. I spend enough time in Azeroth! |
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What I truly don't understand is the people who come out of the woodwork whenever this topic comes up - and it continues to come up because it's a feature present in many other MMOs - and just vent and rage against it as if it in some way is threatening their ability to play the game. It would just be another instance, much like the thousands that already run concurrently.
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I like the idea of the sort.
~ There's a Free game out which has Guild area's. You go to a big stone and it teleports you to your guild's home. The guild area is high in the mountains by a beautiful waterfall and a big summit that overlooks the kingdom. The area has special guild venders, such as one that offers discounts. It's a fairly large area for your guild where you can have guild meetings, etc. It's really nice. |
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Edited by Holyfrikncow on 2/23/12 8:45 AM (PST)
Yessir i understand that. My point is however.. the point of guild housing is for guilds to meet, interact, etc. Why would we need a seperate " guild house instance" for that- When all they could do is make a big guild hall with alot of rooms with chairs... etc to get the feel as if it were a guild house. Guild house does not have to be plural here meaning a guild house for every guild. Make ONE in a CITY with alot of interesting ROOMS lol. put guild vaults in the rooms.. vendors.. etc. The ones in sw and orgrimar are small, lame, and not big enough for people to MEET. /g chat... solved. meet in any major city inn and sit at a table together... solved. What I truly don't understand is the people who come out of the woodwork whenever this topic comes up - and it continues to come up because it's a feature present in many other MMOs - and just vent and rage against it as if it in some way is threatening their ability to play the game. It would just be another instance, much like the thousands that already run concurrently. When the developers state that the work required to do housing the way they'd want to do it would require no new game content for 4-6 months, that directly threatens my ability to play the game. And I truly don't understand why people come out of the woodwork to post these threads when it is more than clear that it's not going to happen in WoW... absolutely nothing indicates that they will change their mind, and if anything their resolve on the issue only seems to get stronger and stronger through their comments on the subject, and the actions they've made within the game to remove any and all of the last remnants of old housing placeholders. |
An NONE of those others are as big or popular as WoW. Perhaps their having housing is one of the reasons? One of the major CM's has said it. Even the lead developer said it... clearly, publicly, and unambiguously. There is not doubt. It is official. Housing. Will. Not. Happen. In. WoW. Find something else to obsess about. |
You say, "Housing, please." Blizz says, "No housing." You say, "Housing, please." Blizz says, "No. No housing." You say, "Housing, please." Blizz says, "No. Housing is out." You say, "Housing, please." Blizz says, "We said, no. We mean no. Too resource intensive." You say, "Housing, please." Blizz says, "No. Never." You say, "Housing, Please." Blizz says, "Wtf? Are you deaf? NO! No housing!" You say, "Housing, please." Blizz says, /ignore You say, "Housing, please." "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". Albert Einstein Argue with the greatest genius of the 20th century. |
