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Most volatiles (Earth, Wind, Water, and Fire), can be obtained through several different methods. You could go grind certain elementals, fish, or do other simple, perhaps time consuming, activities to obtain them. Volatile Life, however, can only be obtained through herbalism and an occasional skin in Vashj'ir. Very occasional. A while back the drop rate on Volatiles was reduced, and I want to argue that it should be once again heightened, at the very least, for Life, whose methods of obtaining are severely limited while also having the most uses for in-game. Why should the Volatile used most often be so slow to obtain? There should be no reason for me to get 500 herbs before I get 100 volatile lifes.

Life is still the second cheapest Volatile (after Earth) on every market I have seen. Which means it must be plenty easy to obtain, since it also has one of the highest demands.

There is no need for you to get 500 herbs to get 100 Lifes. Lots of people are out there farming herbs that don't want the Lifes. Buy theirs. There's never a really good reason to farm for anything unless you know a trick that lets you farm it considerably faster than most other people. In any other situation you are better off making gold the way you do best and buying everything else you need.

Part of the reason Volatile Life is so cheap is due to the plethora of herb farmers (legit players and bots combined). While having another source of it besides just herbing, it's not really that necessary, as it would only server to devalue it even more. Look at Volatile Earth... it's ridiculously cheap now (at least it is on my server... less than 1g each at most times) due to the massive ore farming and additional drops from earth elementals. Making Volatile Life into what Volatile Earth is wouldn't really solve anything.

Herbalism is still far easier and faster then grinding elementals by a MILE.

What are you stuck on regarding life anyways?

Having a transmuter is helpful for this. I made more then enough transmuting and buying life that I haven't had to worry about ANY volatiles for this xpac.

Herbalism is still far easier and faster then grinding elementals by a MILE.

What are you stuck on regarding life anyways?

Having a transmuter is helpful for this. I made more then enough transmuting and buying life that I haven't had to worry about ANY volatiles for this xpac.

There are no transmutes to life from anything else. Thank you, come again.

02/17/2012 12:59 PMPosted by Thrugg

Life is still the second cheapest Volatile (after Earth) on every market I have seen. Which means it must be plenty easy to obtain, since it also has one of the highest demands.

It's the most expensive on my server. Any rebuttals saying they're cheap is invalid in consideration to my server's economy.

volatile life is the second cheapest on your server right now.

http://theunderminejournal.com/category.php?realm=A-Shattered%20Halls&category=elementals

Well ok I haven't checked the volatile market in awhile since 4.3 was released, but life can't possibly be the most expensive compared to air or water.

What I did was that I bought life because they are cheap and abundant. Transmuted to air or water and sold them for a very nice profit margin also as transmute spec. By repeating this simple process, I had tons of gold in profit as well as tons of life. Life was gained purely from buying them with profit. I made like 10k in profit with still over 1000 life on me.

Since this morning, perhaps. I bought out almost all the volatiles for 250 flasks last night. I had to pay 14.5 per.

02/17/2012 04:16 PMPosted by Painpills

Since this morning, perhaps. I bought out almost all the volatiles for 250 flasks last night. I had to pay 14.5 per.

you way overpayed then. Its no fault of the system that you payed nearly double your severs average price.

I can't really think of any reason why it should be up that high as a market norm.

I never bought life for more then 4g each. I waited for it because I knew how easy it is to farm so I refused to ever pay more for it.

meh, the average for any given server varies pretty heavily. i dont think ive ever gotten them for 4g each even buying in massive bulk amounts.

my server they are around 7-8g usually though i haven't bought in a while cause i found a secret stash of almost 10,000 not to long ago in one of my alt banks.

02/17/2012 04:16 PMPosted by Painpills

Since this morning, perhaps. I bought out almost all the volatiles for 250 flasks last night. I had to pay 14.5 per.

Your confusing a temporary shortage caused by bad buying with a actual shortage.

They float between 9-11 on my server; they very rarely dip down to 8 and it's only the ones that last for a few seconds posted by morons that sell for 4. Both Earth and Fire are cheaper; lately Water has been about the same. Air is still higher (around 18) but nothing like it used to be.

volatile life is the second cheapest on your server right now.

http://theunderminejournal.com/category.php?realm=A-Shattered%20Halls&category=elementals

lol'd

02/17/2012 12:47 PMPosted by Painpills

while back the drop rate on Volatiles was reduced

I don't remember that ever happening.


500 herbs and 100 lifes would be pretty darn good! For one thing, that is 500 herbs to sell to buy a whole mess of volatile life, if you just wait until its at or below the price they should be at.

Lets make a Letterman's to 10, I'll start.

There should be no reason for me to.........

10. Stop at buying 2000 volatile lifes when there were still more in the AH!

Posted by Painpills
while back the drop rate on Volatiles was reduced




I don't remember that ever happening.


500 herbs and 100 lifes would be pretty darn good! For one thing, that is 500 herbs to sell to buy a whole mess of volatile life, if you just wait until its at or below the price they should be at.

Back when Cataclysm was released, I took my druid herb farming, and nearly got a 1 to 1 ratio of herbs to Volatile Life, especially out in Uldum. I used to get, at the very least, double the amount of life for 500 herbs.

Also, I don't farm my herbs for the Volatile Life. I farm herbs for both, because I use both. However, I may take that idea into account and sell a haul in every now and again.

I'm most confused that you wouldn't play the market more. As pointed out it would appear that it was a temporary shortage that spiked the price a bit. I wouldn't doubt that the price went up a little after the bot ban fest, but I don't think that it should be that high unless your server is just plain terrible in that market.

The market confusion stems from making 250 flasks in one night. I can't imagine the need for that many to be produced (and used) in one night. For me I buy only what I need if the price is terribile then watch the market and snake as many as possible in the price range I am most comfortable with.

Life is still the second cheapest Volatile (after Earth) on every market I have seen. Which means it must be plenty easy to obtain, since it also has one of the highest demands.

There is no need for you to get 500 herbs to get 100 Lifes. Lots of people are out there farming herbs that don't want the Lifes. Buy theirs. There's never a really good reason to farm for anything unless you know a trick that lets you farm it considerably faster than most other people. In any other situation you are better off making gold the way you do best and buying everything else you need.

Life is the second highest volatile on my market 200life is going for ~3.5K