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Tauren too chummy with Night Elves
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The title pretty much says it all. With the way all the story lines go the night elves and the tauren are basically druidic best friends and they are making Tauren not hordey enough. This is warcraft and though people think the alliance and horde hating eachother for no good reason is foolish it needs to be that way. I don't mind each race having their own agenda yet being part of the alliance or like sylvannas (great story and character btw) they are only part of the horde because if she wasn't she would get overrun by the alliance, remaining scourge, and scarlet crusade.
One thing you could easily do is make the Night Elves more xenophobic like the old Fandral Staghelm was. If you like the current leaders personas where they are just bring back Maiev as the new night elf leader and make them a stuck up race who thinks of themselves as better than everyone. Make them only part of the alliance because of the way Sylvannas is part of the Horde, they need to or else they get overrun by orcs. Either way please make Tauren and Night elves, druids especially, really hate eachother. |
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The tauren and night elves have been on neutral/friendly terms with each other far, FAR longer than with the Horde and Alliance. It dates back to the War of the Ancients, when Krasus called in them along with the furbolgs and Earthen.
Seeing them work together makes more sense than seeing them fight. |
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The tauren and night elves have been on neutral/friendly terms with each other far, FAR longer than with the Horde and Alliance. It dates back to the War of the Ancients, when Krasus called in them along with the furbolgs and Earthen. The Tauren adn Night Elves have been in a blood feud for generations according to the Shifting Sands scepter story. |
The tauren and night elves have been on neutral/friendly terms with each other far, FAR longer than with the Horde and Alliance. It dates back to the War of the Ancients, when Krasus called in them along with the furbolgs and Earthen. The Night Elves then proceeded to Ingore the tauren and never talk to them again until vanilla wow for all we can tell. In the Scepter of the Shifting sands short story it was mentioned that they actually have a blood feud with the elves. I'm guessing it has something to do with the Night Elves and to a lesser extent Cenarius never doing anything about the centaur killing all the tauren. |
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The Centaur sold us choice cuts.
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I honestly was not aware of that blood feud line, it's been forever since I've read... well, anything about the stuff in Silithus, really.
But we clearly see tauren and night elves working together in Thousand Needles, and there's the whole thing in The Shattering about them being on good terms, that's why they sent Hamuul to meet with the druids, instead of say an orc or something. |
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The Shattering wasn't between Night Elves and Tauren. It was between druids.
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the tauren are such nice people why wouldn't we all be chummy with them
they are my favorite enemy. |
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Nelfs are jerks we help them out during the WotA and they dont call us for THOUSANDS OF YEARS!
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Given how absolutely disparate and nomadic the Tauren have been right up until WarCraft 3, I have to wonder how much their existence even played into the minds of the Night Elves before they joined the Horde.
Likewise, the Tauren've had that whole, "avoid being scoured from the face of Azeroth" by the Centaur thing going on. I just don't think these two races would have had much relationship period between the War of the Ancients and the reformation of the Horde. |
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Edited by Dalorell on 2/22/12 12:51 PM (PST)
With no interaction though they really need to hate eachother a whole lot more. I mean from a lore standpoint the Tauren really hate undeath so they hate sylvannas, and they are very nature-loving so they hate goblins who ruin the land with machines. They even hate orcs for Garrosh's big challange against Cairne and they think Blood elves are reckless magic users. They basically hate the horde and love the alliance! Come on blizz switch this around! In all practical terms the desire to make them the native american culture has turned them into anti-horde.
They need to be more like the native american tribes that were more savage like Mohicans or blackfoot maybe. This calm wise cow thing could easily be replaced by ill tempered bull that charges with savage fury, now that would be horde-like! |
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And yet it was a tauren that convinced Thrall to let the Forsaken into the Horde. The Tauren dont like the forsakens activities but see them as redeemable. Personally Im starting to think that may have been wishful thinking.
This is a relationship Id really like to see more about. Realisticly Taurens should hate how goblin's work but its never really mentioned ingame when we see the two races interact.
It was Cairne who challanged Garrosh, not the other way round. The only issue some tauren might have with the duel was the underhanded involvement by the Grimtotems which Garrosh was not a part of.
I cant actually think of a huge amount of examples of the two groups interacting. Either way Tauren tend to be pretty open minded and open to compramise alot. Possibly too much frankly. The Baine short story ended up making Baine look like a fool. I dont however think you will be seeing splits between races in factions like the CC. Blizz likes their neutral groups cause it makes it easier for them to develop content since they can do one set of content that applies to both factions. |
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Between the Cenarion Circle and Anduin's relationship with Baine, I think that's kind of Blizzard's point.
In some ways, Baine would rather be with the Alliance. That would put him in deep trouble with the rest of the Horde, who happen to be their neighbors. Furthermore, at this point it would put Baine in trouble with his own people because of what happened with Taurajo. But who knows? Maybe Varian had it in the back of his mind that if he conquered Mulgore, he could get Baine to switch over and give the Alliance an amazing advantage on Kalimdor. In the end none of it is really there to suggest the Tauren will ever leave the Horde. It's just there to make the story more interesting by having two major figures of two enemy races not actually want to hurt each other, even though they have to. |
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The tauren are happily invading Ashenvale, Stonetalon and other Kalimdor warzones and supporting Garrosh in everything he does.
Aside from the druids, I can't really see a reason why the elves would WANT to be on good terms with the tauren. |
There have been examples of both orcs and trolls, grumbling and hating the way Garrosh is taking the Horde. The tauren have made no such objections. At least, not visibly, so I'll have to assume that they haven't. |
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Also, mooks don't generally have to say anything. They're there to get beat up.
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Who swore himself to Garrosh and his new Horde, as well as personally pulling Garroshs !@# out of the fire when he was about to be killed.
I daresay Baine won't be speaking up any time soon. Hell, he hasn't spoken since the Alliance aided his people in retaking their capitol. You can certainly tell the tauren are grateful indeed. |
