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Female Worgen Model Remake [Condens.]
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Edited by Twila on 2/22/12 1:59 PM (PST)
In the following paragraphs, I will be discussing the issues with the current Worgen models, specifically the female one in some instances. This topic is for the discussion about the Female Worgen Model and what players have been wanting since the emergence of Worgen and Goblins with the introduction of Cataclysm; the correct model for female Worgen. I will also be going over some things about the male model and others, but the main focus will be directed at the female model.
I’ll be going over what I and others have said so that others may get a grasp on what we are trying to achieve by having the models changed into what they were wrongfully denied because of a lack of time and being rushed by those that could not wait. Just for clarrification, this topic is based on the topic found here http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4038613940 and is not meant to stop discussion there. This topic is a condensed and informative version of that topic. 1: What we have now 2: Alpha/Beta Cataclysm 3: What should be changed? 4: Why it should be changed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1: What we have now Currently, what we have now are the basic definitions of the current appearance of a male and female Worgen. Seems pretty simple if you say it like that. But when we go over to the character creation screen, you have five different options to choose from when creating your female Worgen. First you have “Skin Color,” which obviously changes the fur and skin coloring of the character’s worgen and human forms. Next is “Hair Color,” which serves absolutely no purpose on the Worgen model in question, but rather the 5% used human form. Previously, when Alpha/Beta were out and before the ultimate change, hair color was an option for Worgen as a whole. Next is “Hair Style,” all of which seem to utilize some form of braiding, different appearances for long scruffy hair, or “no hair” (as I shall dub it), of which it only utilizes the built-in mane, which cannot be changed no matter what you try and do. Next is the “Ears.” This particular setting doesn’t have many quarrels with many people, but the lack of “healthy” selections is questionable. Male Worgen are stuck with deciding what ear type they want based on the facial hair that it comes with, removing choice of facial hair and ear combinations. Next we have the “Face” option. This is the particular appearance feature that usually defines one character to the next. All this feature does, however, is change the fur pattern on the face. While this holds some similarities with the male Worgen, the biggest difference between the two is that the female’s eyes remain unchanged, both in visual appearance, color, and even expression. This excludes the fact that the “Face” option only changes the human’s face. The biggest problem with just the face is the fact that the female Worgen’s faces do not change whatsoever (save for the fur pattern on the muzzle), while the male at least has visual aspects when switching between faces, but the snarling somewhat draws the attention away from that for some (myself included) and leads some to believe that it does not change. Switching over to create a male or female Night Elf yields nearly the same options, yet the “Face” option changes the face physically, altering between many different emotions and appearances. Both male and female Worgen are stuck with the same face, only with differing fur patterns. This is almost like saying all Worgen, male and female, are birthed from the same parents, or are bitten by the same worgen (if worgen DNA causes the bitten to look like them when they change). This causes a lack of diversity, both in appearance and attitude. I as a person, would not choose the face my current female Worgen has, given the choice, as I’m not a bloody piss ant 24/7, nor would I wish to be. It also isn’t difficult to find similar Worgen players strutting their stuff with your exact facial fur pattern and color. Again, this reeks of a lack of diversity. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2: Alpha/Beta Cataclysm Just to recap, during the time Cataclysm was in Alpha and then Beta (until a certain point), the female Worgen model was not complete, and only the males were the only ones around at the time Beta was out. Does anyone remember this model for the males: http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/4/4b/Worgen_screen.jpg If you do, you’re probably wondering why this didn’t make it past Beta. It was said that it wasn’t “Fierce enough” by all the nay-sayers. Did you know, however, that there was an even more “cuddly” version of the aforementioned version of the male Worgen? Doing a bit of searching, you can find this: http://www.wowpedia.org/images/d/d8/Cataclysm_Worgen.png To some of you, you can already tell the differences. To others, it’s the same model, but the first has more detail. In the first image, it was arguably fiercer, but yet at the same time, had room to have facial expressions. The second version, however, wasn’t dubbed “as fierce” as the community wanted. So it was changed to the first image’s version. But the first still wasn’t “enough” by all the nay-sayers who didn’t think it was fierce and wild enough. So Blizzard changed them once again This is the product of that very change: http://s3.amazonaws.com/inspiresynergy-duncan/pictures/46538/26074_large.jpg It’s a face only a mother could love… or someone you’ve been bitten by. Worst part about it is that the Alpha/Beta pre-change Worgen models had a lot more versatility compared to the “One look for all” version when you look at that face. All Mr. Worgen wanted was a hug, but he’s got his face all stapled down so he’s barring his teeth that he never got one. I personally dubbed the snarly faced Worgen “Snaggletooth” because of this. Now, I wish I could repeat the same thing about the females, but this is where things start getting way too technical, even for me. First off, I would like to say, that the female started off kind of sketchy, to say the least. It was a mock-job to appease those that had been raging to have the model shown since nothing had been done about it before Beta went live. Eventually, Blizzard caved in, and gave us the first look at the model. This was supposedly that first look (correct me if I am wrong): http://www.wowpedia.org/images/0/03/FWPlate.jpg At first, you would likely think that, without hair, this model is rather !@#$ty. In all honesty, it was lacking the finesse that the males had gotten for their first pass. It was acceptable, and with the coming of hair (Many located in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PI-J8oSatA (link thanks to Tuzzle)), the changes for it were welcomed with open arms, as the model had a lot of potential to be so much more, and it already currently was with the use of different appearances and emotions in the face. But this didn’t last long, that is, until the “it’s not fierce enough” guys came about. After some up-in-arms raging (at first acceptable arguments, most of which contained “keep what we already have, but add ferocious looks”), Blizzard went about changing the male and female Worgen models to make them fierce looking. This was the result of that change for females: http://www.caninesncritters.com/Cricket-%20Snarl.jpg Oops, sorry about that. That is quite literally what you get when you Google “Female Worgen.” This is actually what the change for females was: http://www.wowscreenshot.com/image/Worgen-Female.jpg I don’t know how anyone can find this model acceptable by any degree, but I can say with utmost certainty that anyone that was upset about the female Worgen not being fierce enough were turning themselves around and saying that Blizzard dun goofed the female model in more areas than just the “ferocious” department. That wasn’t the worst part of it though. If you recall from earlier, the “Face” option when creating your character does not change the appearance and expression of your Worgen, but rather the facial fur pattern… that’s what Blizzard settled on. A deadline was made for the release of Cataclysm, and they didn’t think they would be able to manage recreating the female’s face and re-doing all the aspects of its face just to appease the group that had asked for “fierce” looking models in time for release. Yeah, we got the “fierce” looking model… but that’s all we got. No calm looking Worgen, no disgruntled, cheerful, mild, peaceful, or ruthless, sexy… just wild. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3: What should be changed? A lot should be changed, believe it or not. The most obvious change to both the male and female models is to separate the Human and Worgen options, so that you can design them separately, rather than choosing one detail for your human, which inevitably uglifies your Worgen, and vice versa. The second is to give facial options for expressions, rather than the snarling the current models force us all to endure for all eternity. The third is aimed specifically at females. The target is their eyes. The eyes are distasteful because there are several things about them that horribly hurt the female Worgen as a whole. This image goes into a lot of detail about the matter on the eyes (Image is sourced by several people in this topic http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4038613940?page=1 ): http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/099/5/3/female_worgen_stuff_by_hitsujifox-d3dl2jo.png I would also like to include this image to describe my thoughts on the eyes: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/090/9/0/shrugpony___derpy_hooves___by_moongazeponies-d3cvjx6.png I apologize about the whole Derpy Hooves thing, but it is necessary when combining the image above it. I just don’t like how the eyes are when you look at how the irises/pupils are just looking out in two different directions. If you were to copy-paste one of the “CURRENT” female Worgen eyes in the above image, paste it in paint, and then do a circular line-over of the two, cross them in the middles, then take the middle points and connect them going outwards, the left eye is looking out more to the left, while the right eye is looking out to the right, giving it that derpy look. Doing the same with the “ALPHA” female Worgen model in the image above, you would notice that it does just the opposite, and looks almost like it’s eyes are trained on you. The eyes also bother me for another reason, particularly the fact that the female Worgen’s eyes are not feral and glowing like the male’s eyes are. Its distasteful and incomplete, as it is implying things that I honestly don’t think even Blizzard intentionally meant to happen. The points are discussed in the above image. Also, when regarding eyes and the nature of wolves in general, larger canines, or wolf-like creatures, they are not prey. They are hunters, and are not able to see more than what they can already see that is in front of them within their peripheral vision. Why do you think we cannot see more than what is currently in front of us? It is because we, as humans, are hunters. Rodents and deer can see more than whats in front of them, because they are keeping an eye out for us, hence the big bulgy eyes. The current female model’s eyes are bulgy, unlike the male’s model, making it unnatural by all means. This brings to question the Chihuahua image that popped up earlier, and the image above that shows the strange similarities between the two. Chihuahuas are not hunters by any meaning of the term, hence their eye structure. It should be noted that Worgen are not directly wolves as much as they are werewolves, but the general structure should be there, rather than completely obsolete, or completely different from what the male’s model is just to give it a “feminine” look. If it was just about female perspectives, just because it is a girl does not mean that it should have to look like a completely different species of Worgen as a result. Here is an image that shows you just show different the skeletal makeup is, just by looking at the male and female, different and bring the question to if they are the same, and how it could easily be changed: http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7131/worgen.png -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4: Why it should be changed There are a few reasons why the models should be changed, but I’ll summarize the reasons shortly. The first reason should be simple enough to understand; to right the wrong that befell the models in the first place. Some people like the current model, and they have every right to like it. But it should not mean that a newer version should not be implemented when it keeps the female model in check, and keep it realistic to the males. Secondly, since Blizzard has already stated that model updates/changes are in order for Pre-Wrath races, who is to say that the Worgen, and even Goblins, aren’t allowed to have a little bit of love for this? I mean really, since the change, Goblins as a whole have lost that evil little grin that has made its mark on all who have played since Vanilla. Gaining that little smile would be a huge ego boost to many goblins alike. It also wouldn’t be too hard to implement a sixth appearance option for some races, allowing male Worgen to separate their ears and facial hair, for instance. Just because Goblins and Worgen are new does not mean they should be excluded from any updates to models. This sixth option could go waaay further than just the Worgen, but I want to explain in a bit of detail. First, concerning the female and the face. When you scroll through the options of the female's face option, it only changes the face's fur pattern on her muzzle. This fur pattern option could thusly be changed for the said sixth option, and allow the "Face" option to change the eye color of your current Worgen face, and permit the use of the Alpha female Worgen. Hopefully you now know a little bit more about the situation with the female Worgen model, and possibly even have your own input. I implore you to leave some thorough input on your thoughts and ideas as to how to make it better, and be as detailed as you can. We’re trying to push this out to inform as many people as possible, in hopes that Blizzard can make a well-educated decision on what should be done in the case of the Worgen, and possibly all other races as well. Constructive criticism is what Blizzard has always been wanting, and formal discussions are the epiphany of what gets changes going in their eyes. I will edit in things where I can. Otherwise, I will leave page numbers and post numbers as points of interest. |
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Well said Twila. Well said indeed.
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I really like male Worgen faces as they are and wish female Worgen got the same treatment with the prominent fangs and "snaggleteeth". But that's just my preference for a horror monster race as the Worgen.
But all in all, I agree with everything you've presented. :) |
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It seems that even with all the proof-reading I did before posting, there were still a few errors when separating the paragraphs. A shame, that is. >:
Anyways, @Donahue, the fangs of the current male Worgen teeth are perfectly fine, and I actually like how they were implemented (save for the fact that it was the only option we had). I wished the same would happen for Females, but knew that, in Blizzard's eyes, the female isn't always boasting the "bigger teeth" and the like. An example of this is Orcs and Trolls. Males have larger teeth and tusks, while the females have arguably smaller teeth and tusks, but are still widely visible to all. The problem with it though was the fact that it would likely not mesh well on a female under the current model. Period. I can see how it likely would show how the model should be changed, but it should at the very least come with the option to have the choice of whether or not you want to be snarling, grinning, glaring, smiling, or not baring our teeth 24/7. In combat, it would make more sense, but the approach taken is just upsetting because of the fact that, combat or no combat, you are stuck with baring your teeth. Unless you prefer to hide in human form while in Stormwind or traveling, just to hide your fangs because you can't stand sitting there idle with that look on your face. |
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I enjoyed reading this and this was well put. I requested for a sticky so it can gain some recognition ;3.
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Updated the title name for clarification to those that may be confused between the two topics and added an appropriate link at the top. Sorry for any confusion it may have caused. x-x;
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I'll try to keep this short, as I'm pretty much repeating everything I've said in other fem. worgen threads.
1. Alpha worgen model resembles wolves a lot more than the derpchihuahua. No, they do not resemble cats and foxes more closely than they do wolves. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll24/catti29/worgencatfoxwolf.png 2. http://hitsujifox.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=/&offset=216#/d3dl2jo <-- Explains a lot wrong with the derpchihuahua model. 3. The derpchihuahua doesn't look like she's even the same species as the male. http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7131/worgen.png 4. The derpchihuahua is glitchy and her customization options are the equivalent of changing the tattoos on a female nelf's face. And her rear sticks in the air as if she's in heat while in Running Wild. As for the male worgen, yeah, they can use more customization options. However, I like the new model more than it's alpha model because it more closely resembles the NPC/Monster worgen. |
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I emphatically disagree about the males' face not changing expression. While it's not as expressive as female goblins, nothing in game is as expressive as female goblins, not even male goblins. Male goblins all are some form of "angry, cocky, or wrinkled." Male worgen, at least, have some degree of expression diversity with a calm looking blue-eyed face (my druid has that face), a wary purple-eyed face, a very evil-looking green-eyed face, or a neutral-ish red-eyed face. Their yellow-eyed face is very careworn and has clear bags under the eyes.
Sadly, I think this is just a byproduct of wanting all worgen to look fierce all the time. It leaves less options for the face, and it's sad that they had to do this. The alpha faces were so expressive and they actually looked angrier in combat because of the neutral expression they had when they weren't in combat. But just like nothing compares to female goblins in terms of customizability, flexibility and expressiveness, nothing also compares to female worgen in terms of lack of all these things. The One Face which looks like she just got back from a bad botox treatment, the deer-in-the-headlights walleyes, the horse cheeks, the vulture neck, the clipping on the gums when she tries to make those malformed lips change shape, all of that just scream "rush job!". :( |
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These two statements pretty much summarize most people's thoughts about the male Worgen's facial department. The fact that they closely resemble the NPCs of old did them justice, and warranted the effects that Tuzzle brought up. All I am saying in the male model's sector is that the degree of the snarling face is hard to ignore sometimes, and the varying degrees of it could have used some tweaking, such as using the green-eyed face having the most prominent version, and the blue-eyed having the least. Its a little hard for some to grasp the concept that the male's faces actually do change somewhat when they all have the snarling going on. Editing that bit to keep it in line with what is currently there.
I and some friends agree that the sniffing should be fixed, primarily due to the fact that it sounds like our noses are clogged 24/7, and the rate of which it activates is profuse. |
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Here you go. This "mod" contains empty sound files that override existing ones, making the worgen snifflesnorts completely silent. Note that it isn't against the ToS to change sound files through methods like this. Doing the same with models is, sadly, a bannable offense, so don't get any ideas in your head about switching the new models for the old ones. http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/sniff-b-gone/502576 |
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Edited by Tuzzle on 2/19/12 6:49 PM (PST)
Ha! I've been using that mod since day one, such that I completely forgot how annoying the sniffing is. I don't think I could ever uninstall it. I'm afraid to, actually. Worgen are the only race with an idle sound, and not only that it cannot even be disabled through the default interface. That needs to change, period. Isn't that the entire reason hunters can transmog guns into bows? Because not everyone wants to be stuck with a constant BANG BANG BANG? And yet, every worgen is forged to be stuck with a constant wet, sloppy SNUFF SNUFF SNOOOOORF. :c
Very true. It would have been lovely to have a very light snarl or even a closed-mouth on my peaceful and cuddly druid (because he is-- he's a big fluffy puppy-man who chose druidism to reconnect with his curse's heritage and found inner peace through it). I guess I've sort of tuned out his mouth. I guess it all boils down to the old saying "The eyes are the window to the soul". The male's eyes, and the shading around his eyes, changes rather obviously from face to face, causing the faces to look distinct. The female's eyes do not, one has to zoom in all the way before one notices subtle color differences; and the shading around the eyes changes almost not at all, so the faces all get muddied together and look the same. I made an edit to the female's face to show what the eyes should look like based on the bare texture. For some reason they grow enormously when placed on the model. Another player then edited it further to show how distinct the faces could be made with the simple addition of bright eye colors instead o the current washed-out ones. http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz175/snuzzled/worgens_ladies.png http://fav.me/d3b02mo Those are all my characters; my hunter, my druid, and my warrior. They are still horribly wall-eyed, but overall a large improvement I think. I wouldn't feel nearly as disappointed with the model if she looked like that. And all I did was shrink the eyes to the size they appear on the bare texture. |
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While I totally agree with everything here, all I really have hope for is the alpha worgens put back in as options to the current ones.
That would go for both the males and the females because the males have such a horribly limited amount of options to them as well. |
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Just because an animal (or anything else that fits) has a general impression of being fierce, doesn't mean that they are all fierce looking. There are lots of people that you wouldnt want to meet in a dark ally just because of how they look, and there are people that give the opposite feeling.
The people that complained about the worgen not being fierce enough was probably a *correct* call, but that doesn't mean that the whole species has to be fierce. I would like to see the alpha model back. Thanks for making a detailed and persuasive thread to try and resolve this issue. |
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how about, no. I like my character as she is. So do a lot of other people. How would you like it if you were playing say... a Draenei and a few people kept spamming post after post demanding that they look like broken, and Blizzard does just that, turns all draenei into broken. That's what you people are essencially wanting. For blizzard to change the females into something that in no way shape or form, matches the male worgen.
My character matches the males, though true she doesn't got eye glow, but she still matches the males. The Alpha models were inferior, and looked nothing like worgen. Key word is Worgen. See this? http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/Grand-Dragon/worgen.png That shows clearly how much more like the males the current model is, vs the inferior alpha that doesn't even remotely match up to the vanilla worgen monsters. Also, this thread isn't even about mists of pandaria. Guess what, cataclysm has been out since December 2010. It is now Febuary 2012. Worgen, males and females, are now established. To do what you would suggest, is to destroy peoples characters, especially for us roleplayers. Blizzard suffered a lot of account losses in 2011 because people either thought the dungeons too hard, or the game boring or whatever else. They aren't going to risk losing more account just to keep a few people who have the option to not play something they don't like, happy. No one forces you to play a worgen female. No one says "You must role a worgen female". Hell I don't like the looks of the troll females. You don't see me on the forums demanding they be changed/scrapped. I know people are attatched to their character. It would be obnoxious and rude of me, to demand blizzard destroy another players character because I don't like how the model looks. It is wrong, you know it, I know it, and Blizzard knows it. So do this, say "meh I don't like the looks of the worgen female" and play a character model you do like. Let those of us who enjoy the model, continue enjoying it, without the whole campaigning to destroy our characters. It's the mature thing to do. |
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Not one to derail here but the Worgen sniffing back during alpha sounded WAY better and much more menacing. It actually carried on the sound of a predator sniffing for its prey, followed by a low growl that was pretty intimidating in its own right. In fact a lot of the old alpha Worgen sound files were pretty well done in their own right. Anyways I do find it amazing how a simple reshaping of the eyes and an added glow to it would bring such a huge change in making it look much better than how it does now. |
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While I have various reasons for not rolling worgen myself - primarily the fact that Worgen features and Human features are linked, such that if you want a certain look for one form you're "stuck" with a look for another form you probably won't like, with only a few exceptions - I fully support your campaign to change the females... because God knows they need it.
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Is it just me or do people come out at night to post while I'm asleep? |:
(bear in mind I am just making conversation in response. I am not arguing) While most animals have an impression of being fierce, wolves and or werewolves have an unquestionable fierceness to them, male or female. In the case of females, wolves can just as easily be prominently more aggressive than their male counterparts. Generally, the same philosophy can be said about werewolves. This makes the whole sexism bit questionable. The problem with the "fierce looking" bit is that the face is horribly done when you look at it from the right angles, much less when doing so for the eyes (which are arguably the worst). The image I linked above ( http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/099/5/3/female_worgen_stuff_by_hitsujifox-d3dl2jo.png ) and going down halfway the page shows exactly that. While a wolf's nose can turn up in that direction, it only does so while baring its fangs, such as in this image: http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/Image/1598/Thumb/1598R-10065083.jpg The problem with comparing the two though is that the female Worgen's "snarling" is limited to the ends of her lips, rather than the whole of her mouth, such as the wolf in the above image. Another questionable act of sexism done distastefully, and feels incomplete and incorrect. I mean certainly, who would want to roll a female worgen with a snarling face like that? Tone down the front of her lips while adjusting her back, and give it that upturned nose to imply snarling is a surefire way to solve the problem. /sarcasm
First, I want to ask; what is the mature thing to do? I'll tell you what it is, and I'll be damned before anyone slanderizes me for trying to make a change. Being mature isn't sitting idle doing absolutely nothing. To be mature is to grow up out of your little boys/girls shoes and be a man/woman and take an affirmative stand against all odds, and not take the brashness that comes from others that would try and put you down on your knees begging for mercy. Now, I'm going to take that post of yours apart now that I've had my morning coffee and I'm mildly upset by this post of yours.
You are entitled to your liking the character the way she is, there is no flaw with this. But this is a problem everyone has foreseen since the Alpha was changed into the Current; people would grow attached and those in favor of the Current would be unwilling for change of even the smallest degree. If this was entirely about "no way shape or form," then this would have been a topic to completely remodel the whole of the female Worgen, not just its eyes or the falsities in its face. But this topic isn't about that in any way, so what right do you have to compare our wanting to fix the face to people wanting Broken Draenei? None, as Spock would say; they are irrelevant. My character matches the males, though true she doesn't got eye glow, but she still matches the males. The Alpha models were inferior, and looked nothing like worgen. Key word is Worgen. See this? That image is inconclusive. The reason is because the male Worgen used in that image was changed alongside the female Worgen so that they would be tied in together because of the fierceness debacle. As a matter of fact, I'll 1-up you with image distribution. Ignore the bottom sketch, and take a look at the top: http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7131/worgen.png The differences in the skeletal makeup are horribly misconstrued that you really can't tell if the male is the "True" Worgen or the female is the "True" Worgen. Dismissing the image as false is to dismiss your own image as false, as they are both based on theories, yet the skeletal work for the above image is arguably more believable because the artist actually knows the skeletal system. And to mention, people have said that you should have your own option to keep what you already have. I have no quarrels with this by any degree. But by saying that people will "supposedly" leave over the whole change/not changing for the female's face makes it invalid. Nobody is going to leave, change or no change. Blizzard has not focused primarily on the model since the release of Cataclysm, as it was not their main focus because - guess what - Mists of Pandaria was being worked on. It wasn't until the whole announcement that other character models were announced were getting updates which, by the way, would change all characters. So here's a question; will you get extremely upset that your female Night Elf suddenly looks like a large pile of poo after the remake that it completely destroys your RP character? Probably. Its inevitable when doing any form of update that doesn't hold some sort of semblance to the "original."
No. Nobody tells me who or what I will or want to play. But I will play it regardless, while stifling the soul-piercing eyes and muzzle any time I turn my character model around when I'm not busy doing anything else in Stormwind. But yes, you don't like the female trolls as they currently are. But once again, the whole topic that Blizzard is going to be updating (in some ways, changing) character models anyways, so that fact alone already destroys half of that statement. Also, no, I will not say "meh I don't like the looks of the worgen female" and play a character model I do like, because then I would be going against everything I stand for. (slightly off topic incoming) You can continue being passive and not change anything, but this is like that SOPA bill that nearly got passed if not for people rising up against it. If people had been passive, it would have passed through without a doubt in my mind (back on topic). Not ending this post in rage, since this isn't about rage. Its about discussion.
(just to stay on topic instead of the sound thing) Tuzzle does make a very important note about how drastically different (and better) the eyes can look with just toning down the size and giving them the glowing effect. It isn't entirely about the face in general, but it is one of the features that need to be changed/fixed, and seeing that particular image raises the importance of the need for it and how it can give a better feel to the character. I like that and would gladly accept that change as a whole, especially since it puts it in line with the male's eye glow. I'm officially pooped on typing and am going to college. Be back in roughly 7 hours...ish. |
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Kailia, do you actually READ these posts? I said it in the other thread, and I'll say it here, and I'll use the big letters just for you.
I'M GLAD YOU LIKE YOUR FEMALE WORGEN. WE DON'T WANT THE CURRENT MODEL REMOVED, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT. WE WANT THE ALPHA MODEL TO BE INCULDED AS AN OPTION. There. That should get you all caught up on what we're trying to do. We're not trying to take away your beloved derphound. All we want is the option to play a female worgen that ISN'T a derphound. Got it? Excellent...... |
