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are some people not worth healing?
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When you have limited mana and cooldowns, do you only heal people who are worth it? If I see someone with 100k HP that's about to die, I could heal him but that means I don't get to heal someone else. Plus he'd take extra damage due to his poor resilience.
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ok this is a great question
yes and if defending a resource cap with a smart rogue, ill take one for the team to top him off because he can prolly defend better than I can and i can always just run to my body if thats timer possible |
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Use this simple flow chart:
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You can't heal stupid.
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Edited by Serennia on 2/20/12 11:02 PM (PST)
Those who heal/peel/protect me come first, always. Full stop.
I heal whoever I can, and as I start running low on mana I heal those with a clue, over those without a clue. Then of those, those who are geared over those who are not geared. (I will heal someone with a clue and no gear, over some clueless whiney (bleep) who does jack but demands I pocket heal them). I (almost) never heal someone who trolls me. |
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Edited by Takeru on 2/20/12 10:08 PM (PST)
While I do find it frustrating (bit of honesty, here) when you're healing someone with 90k HP, who is clearly just entering the BG's.... I heal them the best I can, we were all there... they deserve respect for starting. If they're pleasant, and doing the best - help a brother out.
However... The jerk!@# with 200k HP, who demands we all bow-down to him and his awesomeness? I won't just NOT heal him. I will also MC the horde he's killing, heal them (PoM, PW:S, Renew, they all work), and keep healing the Horde until Mr. jerk!@#$ dies. |
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How exactly do you heal someone while you are channeling MC? |
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Instant casts work - renew/POM/shield/buff etc
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YES!!! I just started playing this toon again over the weekend & ran numerous WSGs. When I was in a good group I stuck with the FC, got peels & we won every single time. However when the group was bad I got no peels (even after pleading with the group to peel the 5 DPS off me) & the FC would keep running & leave me for dead (again against 5+ horde).
In the bad groups I would tell them if you farm mid you get no heals, period. They would then look at my healing numbers & say something stupid like "the DK is out healing you" (the DK was mid farming of course) & my numbers were low because the idiots would literally ride/run past me as 5+ horde zerged me. Bottom line is respect your healers & they will go out of their way to heal you... treat them like a red-headed stepchild & you will get the same treatment in return. |
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Most people are worth healing even people in pve gear depends on your preference and how much of an elitist you want to be as well as how much of a derp the player is being
Does he peel for you does he work on objectives if yes if yes heal heal if the player is whinny, obnoxcious, and/or not helping or a terrible combination of all of that including terrible mechanics and gear/skill then F them. I also prioritize pvp gear > pve geared players as well as players that can CC > pure burst dmg players especially in things like BfG/WSG |
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I refuse to be peel'd. I'm a problem I understand but I will not get off a healer even if i'm being gang banged. I'll forced him to blow as many CDs as I can and maybe even kill him myself and then I die. It's k.
I can't heal anyone but myself though so I'm not sure why I'm here. |
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can't say i ever not healed someone when i could.
i still try even with: the derp commenting that the the DK was healing more the fc that's trying his hardest to run away, i'll try to catch up the guy with 90k, who loses a third of his health with every hit now ppl fighting away from the flag or in mid that's another story aoe'ing the flag is crucial to winning, experience tells me i can't trust others to do it i will not move far from the flag if ppl want heals they can come to me |
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Honestly, the answer really is: that depends.
Obviously, there is a hierarchy of healing priority at work regardless of your skill/gear level and the relative skill/gear of the rest of your team. That much is (or at least should be) obvious. Assuming you're a reasonably geared healer, unless you're getting locked down, there shouldn't be any reason for you not to heal someone (the order in which you heal is based on the priority hierarchy). The more players you have on your team that are alive and active, the better your odds are for success--even if some of them are performing poorly, they're still contributing something tangible. So, if you're a healer that's standing there doing nothing because you simply refuse to heal someone with poor skill/gear--assuming intelligent resource management as it relates to healing priority isn't your reason for doing so--you're actually being a detriment to your team. Decently geared healers shouldn't have much issue with mana regeneration, particularly in randoms, so there's no excuse for standing there and watching someone die just because you don't like their performance. In the case of healers with less gear, it becomes more a matter of "can't" than "won't"--often mana efficiency plays a part in healing decisions, as well as your own survivability. In short, your decision of who to heal should be based on priority (yourself, flag carriers, peels, CCers, everyone else) and your mechanical ability to actively heal (you have mana/aren't locked down), not what skill/gear someone has. If it just so happens that someone is lower on that priority list and you just can't get to them, fine. It's also worth mentioning that there are always means for players to move themselves up that priority list to improve their odds of receiving heals that aren't gear-dependent. |
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Edited by Piemaker on 2/21/12 2:04 PM (PST)
Are some people not worth healing? Absolutely.
If you're a flag-carrier and you're running into a fight (usually a warrior casting Charge, well out-of-range). If you're a mage who went with a group to get the flag, cast Blink, and beat everyone to it merely because you could. If you're a hunter who went with a group to get the flag, cast Cheetah (or worse, Pack), and beat everyone to it because you could. If you're farming mid. If you complain there are no heals merely because I'm not standing next to you keeping you at full health while you farm kills. If our gy is getting camped and you simply resurrect without trying to get out, dying repeatedly. ... Healers: there comes a point where you realize that winning is going to be a slim possibility. Concentrate on healing those who are doing the right things and lose with your pride intact. |
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I've walked away in two situations:
1- pre-vengance nerf, I watched a ret hitting and hitting a blood DK. I healed him for a bit, then just left. 2- healing 2 dps that were beating on a hunter (who seemed quite good with traps and cc- and peeling for his healer) and never touched the healer behind him. Healed for a bit, begged them to focus the healer, then walked away. I always try to heal everyone around me, prioritizing the classes with the best burst/cc options as well as gear. I'm sure I guess incorrectly sometimes, but oh well. |
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I don't heal the afk autofollow bots that are currently plaguing bgs or the morons who are way off in Africa farming hks and complaining about no heals, otherwise I'll heal everyone for awhile. I personally enjoy the challenge of healing players with only 100k health, esp when they are trying to help the team.
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sounds like winning isn't ur top priority if u don't heal me... no problem... i'll just not peel for u and let that Rogue DPS u down from 100% to 0% |
