Topic Can anyone seriously ...
Malvalos
Akama
Malvalos
85 Draenei Shaman
2515
... play their healer without the use of add-ons and with a standard wheel mouse?
Skootalloo
Proudmoore
Skootalloo
85 Gnome Priest
3700
Probably. Dispelling can be pretty annoying with the default UI (I think), but the Blizz UI is much better than it used to be. You can get by with the standard UI and mouseover macros.
Oldwolfe
Runetotem
Oldwolfe
1 Worgen Mage
0
Appropriate keybinding, macros and muscle memory is all it takes.
Malvalos
Akama
Malvalos
85 Draenei Shaman
2515
I don't have any macros ... other than chat spam macros.

I try to play the game as pure as possible .... changing targets is becoming a problem .... having to click target, hit key, click other target, hit other key ... omg tiresome.

So, I recently started using healbot. It makes things easier ... but still ... I tried End Time and could not click fast enough to cover the dispells on the end boss ... couple wipes and everyone leaves party ... making me feel like /slit char's wrist and re-roll a better toon.
Zarriea
Jubei'Thos
Zarriea
85 Dwarf Paladin
5450
My mouse wheel barely works anymore.

I just use mouseover macros and the default blizzard raid frames. Regarding dispels, I only use Decursive on Spine/Sinestra because it's easier due to blizzard raid frame limitations with how many debuffs can be shown.
Gamedin
Proudmoore
Gamedin
85 Human Paladin
1930
Ya, I use straight up blizz UI, cept I used decursive for sinestra and for H spine. I don't do any mouseovers, and I don't have any abilities bound to my mouse (if thats what u meant by "standard wheel mouse") cept for auto-run, which is defaulted there anyways, I discovered its existence back in wrath!
Gamedin
Proudmoore
Gamedin
85 Human Paladin
1930
Edited by Gamedin on 2/20/12 9:03 PM (PST)
My mouse wheel barely works anymore.

I just use mouseover macros and the default blizzard raid frames. Regarding dispels, I only use Decursive on Spine/Sinestra because it's easier due to blizzard raid frame limitations with how many debuffs can be shown.


Damn Zar, I just read your website news, and you guys had quite a ride this tier!

That's pretty beast to finish like that with all those issues.
Dimetapp
Boulderfist
Dimetapp
85 Goblin Priest
3165
I use the standard UI. It's much better than it used to be, even though I've pretty much always used the standard UI in my six years of playing and raiding. I never healed until Cata, and I tried using Healbot and Vuhdo, but I find that I'm just so used to using the default UI that my heals were a lot less efficient. The only add ons that I run are Skada and DBM.
Windfuehrer
Bonechewer
Windfuehrer
85 Orc Shaman
2680
Why would you need a standard-wheel mouse?
Gamedin
Proudmoore
Gamedin
85 Human Paladin
1930
02/20/2012 09:17 PMPosted by Windfuehrer
Why would you need a standard-wheel mouse?


For bunny hopping in TFC/CS!

gosh, the questions people ask!!
Windfuehrer
Bonechewer
Windfuehrer
85 Orc Shaman
2680
02/20/2012 09:24 PMPosted by Gamedin
Why would you need a standard-wheel mouse?


For bunny hopping in TFC/CS!

gosh, the questions people ask!!


rofl, well of course! excuse me!
Kaels
Garrosh
Kaels
85 Blood Elf Priest
6875
Can I? Sure. Did it in Cata beta, and in the last several months of Wrath on live I didn't use any raid frames or healing-type addons because I'd been using X-Perl and it broke and the newly-released default frames turned out to be superior and I hadn't yet discovered Pitbull.

Do I want to? God no.
Oldwolfe
Runetotem
Oldwolfe
1 Worgen Mage
0
I don't have any macros ... other than chat spam macros.

I try to play the game as pure as possible .... changing targets is becoming a problem .... having to click target, hit key, click other target, hit other key ... omg tiresome.

So, I recently started using healbot. It makes things easier ... but still ... I tried End Time and could not click fast enough to cover the dispells on the end boss ... couple wipes and everyone leaves party ... making me feel like /slit char's wrist and re-roll a better toon.


You could try Mouseover macros, coupled with the built in UI raid frames, and assuming you keybind everything properly and know where everything is, it will work very similarly to healbot, just with keybinds rather than mouse clicks.

As for dispells on End Time.....I don't think I've ever USED a dispel on that boss, just spamming heals, there is likely something someone else is doing.(or do you mean a different boss? Hour of Twilight has some dispels on Benedictus?)
Druidssuck
Frostmane
Druidssuck
85 Troll Shaman
1240
Depends on fight mechanics. I mouseover all of my heals so I don't need a 17 button mouse to do anything. Outside of typical left and right click, the only other mouse button that is bound is I like auto run on my thumb.

As far as other addons, if you're just point and click healing you don't need anything. Generally speaking - normal modes. However if you get some of the more complex debuffs or auto wipe mechanics that you have to pay attention for, doing it without some sort of timer or tracker would be very detrimental to your group.
Starfôx
Arthas
Starfôx
85 Night Elf Druid
2985
can i? sure but would i no. thats like asking doesnt anyone run races on one leg? you can but 2 legs makes it so much easier lol why put more on yourself when you can use grid/clique/healbot/vuhdo etc
Ehcks
Gorgonnash
Ehcks
85 Blood Elf Paladin
9135
I used to. It's how I healed back in BC, but paladins only had two healing spells, maybe three if you cared enough to downrank. Most of the time I just spammed flash of light.

Click a person, click flash until they're full, click another person...

Would NEVER do that again.
Evayle
Argent Dawn
Evayle
85 Blood Elf Paladin
3675
I'm not exactly on the bleeding edge of progression, but I don't use anything outside of Recount/DBM/Bartender. I'm never just frantically attempting to heal someone and finding myself unable to.

And like a few others, nothing but the auto run is bound to my mouse.

Syrafury
Kil'jaeden
Syrafury
85 Draenei Shaman
4170
I don't use any healing addons and never have. I have all raid capable healing classes and played since vanilla.

It takes some of the challenge away from my raiding (not that its much of a challenge for healers these days!). Apart from recount and dbm, I use a standard UI.

As far as I know I do a good job, I have a consistent raid spot and make full use of all abilities etc. I don't just sit in the back and spam chain heal :P

Some people like the craziness and manual application of healing, and some don't - they just want it as easy as possible maybe?
Kaels
Garrosh
Kaels
85 Blood Elf Priest
6875
So, I recently started using healbot. It makes things easier ... but still ... I tried End Time and could not click fast enough to cover the dispells on the end boss ... couple wipes and everyone leaves party ... making me feel like /slit char's wrist and re-roll a better toon.

I'm not really sure what you're talking about (I don't remember any dispels on the last boss of End Time) but whether or not you use an addon, you're limited by the 1.5ish-second global cooldown.

I assume you can click more than once every 1.5 seconds. If you have a disability that makes that difficult/impossible, you might find that mouseover macros suit you better because they transfer most of the load to your keyboard hand.

But if you have average motor ability in your mouse hand, then your difficulty with keeping up is probably a mental reaction time/target selection issue rather than a physical click-speed issue. Putting a bit of time into configuring your addon to use the most intuitive size/shape/color scheme can help you improve your reaction time significantly. After that, you're just going to need practice to become familiar with your raid frames.
Kaels
Garrosh
Kaels
85 Blood Elf Priest
6875
Edited by Kaels on 2/20/12 11:30 PM (PST)
02/20/2012 11:18 PMPosted by Syrafury
Some people like the craziness and manual application of healing, and some don't - they just want it as easy as possible maybe?

I don't know what you're talking about either. I 'manually apply' all my healing. Any addon that automatically heals for you would be seriously in violation of the ToS.

There are three differences between me and you: first, my UI is about 10000 times more attractive; second, I'm spared a bit of wear and tear on my joints from all the unnecessary clicking; and third, I get to target the boss. All the actual difficulty of healing - the decisionmaking, reaction time, spell selection, target priority judgment, etc. - is the same for me as it is for you.

That's assuming you don't use mouseovers. If you do use mouseover macros, then the only difference between us is that my interface looks nicer.

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