Topic Draenei why can't we be these classes again?
Ahngelique
Durotan
Ahngelique
85 Draenei Paladin
4480
Edited by Ahngelique on 2/25/12 4:00 AM (PST)
So yes this is another one of those threads.

Warlocks, and Scouts "err" I mean rogues. For every reason why Draenei are not allowed to play as one of these classes, there seems to be as much reason as to why these classes would be a valid option for players.

And so I hope to create this thread to list the pros, and cons of the possibilities of allowing us Draenei lovers the chance to be another two classes.



I think that of all the races we would be hard pressed to find another race with as much knowledge as the Draenei in demon lore. Warlocks would simply be another tool in that arsinal.

As far as Rogues, they have variose scouts in lore/game. Besides the cool factor GW made less of a stretch in allowing Dwarves to become Warlocks, and mages (Dark Iron did it) uggh.


So throwing this out to the wolves, and trolls what do you all think?
if possible give real reasons for or against this idea.
Scuzz
Skywall
Scuzz
85 Undead Warlock
3700
The only obstacles are the current lore, so that can change anytime.

Presently, Draenei aren't warlocks because warlocks are completely evil and utterly opposite to the Light. It'd be like a water elemental throwing fireballs. It's not just a matter of demonic knowledge (which they have in spades), it's a philosophical and theological difference. That said, the supposedly undead draenei death knights still use Gift of the Naaru just fine, soooooooo apparently the Light is pretty flexible.

As for rogues, it's the hooves. Nevermind there are saytrs and other hooved npcs that can stealth, apparently players (including tauren) are too clumsy.
Ashleigh
Bleeding Hollow
Ashleigh
85 Draenei Mage
5415
Iffy on warlocks, want druids, begging for rogues.
Scuzz
Skywall
Scuzz
85 Undead Warlock
3700
Iffy on warlocks, want druids, begging for rogues.


Personally, I can't decide if it would be cooler to see draenei-fied bears and cats, or if the draenei turned into things like small clefthoofs and warpstalkers instead.
Jesterjoe
Bonechewer
Jesterjoe
85 Human Paladin
8080
Draenei warlocks make no sense as stated, but hey, neither does undead priests really if you think about it...

Or that worgens can't be paladins even though they were human...
Or that humans can't be druids since worgens can....(there was a human druid trainer too..)

Oh well, another day in the world of warcraft.
Bretherezen
Nesingwary
Bretherezen
85 Tauren Hunter
4320
Draenei are strict followers of everything Holy and Good in the world.

Rogues = bad, evil, murderous, contractors of death.

Warlocks = damned, corruptors, destroyers.

You see what I mean?
Aransamus
Duskwood
Aransamus
85 Draenei Mage
3165
Druids.... maybe. It'd be a messed up lore scramble though.

Warlocks.... No. They don't fit with the Spacegoats because of the fact that they have always been very Light oriented due to the connection to the Naruu. It would be like Orcs being Paladins.

Rogues..... It's hard to be stealthy with hooves. I know. Even when I hit Invis, everything still hears me cloping around...would be nice to make myself some darn silencers to make my hooves not clop so loud when I'm invis.... *grumble grumble*
Scuzz
Skywall
Scuzz
85 Undead Warlock
3700
02/22/2012 09:15 PMPosted by Arshia
Rogues are more than just scouts. Apparently Draenei can't lie, cheat, steal or swindle.


Perhaps they're just very, very bad at it.

"Oh, look there! A distracting thing, behind you, which is quite distracting! And also behind you!"

Then you just say they learned how to after hanging around Stormwind for awhile. Presumably after Topper McNab cleaned out their banks by claiming to be a Northrendian Prince.
Evilme
Skullcrusher
Evilme
85 Undead Rogue
5755
There are draenei warlocks, they just all happen to be part of the burning legion and the reason the Draenei in the alliance left the rest of their race. The moment they introduce the burning legion as a playable faction I'll be ok with that, also when that happens I would like to request the forsaken to be allowed to join as well :)

As far as rogues, ya I got nothing. I'm pretty sure I've seen some stealth type draenei npcs when I was questing leveling back in bc, but I could be wrong.
Bretherezen
Nesingwary
Bretherezen
85 Tauren Hunter
4320
02/22/2012 09:15 PMPosted by Jesterjoe
Draenei warlocks make no sense as stated, but hey, neither does undead priests really if you think about it...


And why is this?

All an Undead is-is a returned Soul BACK to the body in which the Soul once belonged too. Just because the body is dead does NOT mean that the Soul is not still purified and holy. Which also leads me to ask a question:

If it wasn't for the weight of armor, and exposed vital points, why can an Undead not be a Paladin?
Scuzz
Skywall
Scuzz
85 Undead Warlock
3700
02/22/2012 09:18 PMPosted by Bretherezen
Draenei warlocks make no sense as stated, but hey, neither does undead priests really if you think about it...


And why is this?

All an Undead is-is a returned Soul BACK to the body in which the Soul once belonged too. Just because the body is dead does NOT mean that the Soul is not still purified and holy. Which also leads me to ask a question:

If it wasn't for the weight of armor, and exposed vital points, why can an Undead not be a Paladin?


Hey, our warriors and DKs already wear plate.

They wear it BADLY, but they wear it.
Ashleigh
Bleeding Hollow
Ashleigh
85 Draenei Mage
5415
Draenei are the bible-thumpers off WoW. Maybe we can put a Night elf mage situation and like adopt the broken druids.
Bretherezen
Nesingwary
Bretherezen
85 Tauren Hunter
4320
02/22/2012 09:19 PMPosted by Scuzz


And why is this?

All an Undead is-is a returned Soul BACK to the body in which the Soul once belonged too. Just because the body is dead does NOT mean that the Soul is not still purified and holy. Which also leads me to ask a question:

If it wasn't for the weight of armor, and exposed vital points, why can an Undead not be a Paladin?


Hey, our warriors and DKs already wear plate.

They wear it BADLY, but they wear it.


Very good point.

I vote Undead can become Paladins of the Light.
Aransamus
Duskwood
Aransamus
85 Draenei Mage
3165
[quote="40793168935"]
If it wasn't for the weight of armor, and exposed vital points, why can an Undead not be a Paladin?


Well, even though we can see them in the Argent Crusade, there is the argument of the whole Paladin immunity to the Undead plauge thing. Not to mention, at least Priests can be evil if they spec Shadow. Paladins are 100% goody twoshoes.
Scuzz
Skywall
Scuzz
85 Undead Warlock
3700
[quote]

If it wasn't for the weight of armor, and exposed vital points, why can an Undead not be a Paladin?


Well, even though we can see them in the Argent Crusade, there is the argument of the whole Paladin immunity to the Undead plauge thing. Not to mention, at least Priests can be evil if they spec Shadow. Paladins are 100% goody twoshoes.


Tell me how firmly you believe that last part after a Ret pally whomps someone into a pile of mush for the 20th time in AB.
Quadraxes
Darkspear
Quadraxes
85 Draenei Shaman
13580
The only obstacles are the current lore, so that can change anytime.

Presently, Draenei aren't warlocks because warlocks are completely evil and utterly opposite to the Light. It'd be like a water elemental throwing fireballs. It's not just a matter of demonic knowledge (which they have in spades), it's a philosophical and theological difference. That said, the supposedly undead draenei death knights still use Gift of the Naaru just fine, soooooooo apparently the Light is pretty flexible.

As for rogues, it's the hooves. Nevermind there are saytrs and other hooved npcs that can stealth, apparently players (including tauren) are too clumsy.


If orcs can be warlocks considering their history, I see no reason why draenei can't be warlocks as well.
Sardorim
Darrowmere
Sardorim
85 Worgen Hunter
6275
I can get behind a Draenei Druid.
Scuzz
Skywall
Scuzz
85 Undead Warlock
3700
Edited by Scuzz on 2/22/12 9:26 PM (PST)
If it wasn't for the weight of armor, and exposed vital points, why can an Undead not be a Paladin?
because there isn't enough morphine on Azeroth to make such an existence bearable. No one likes feeling like they are set on fire :D


Pretty sure nobody likes being undead, either. I mean, I can't recall a single NPC not at least grumbling about it from time to time.

My point is, they're already miserable, and will be for eternity. Being MORESO doesn't strike me as a huge deal, especially if enduring that means they can hurt other people MORE. Forsaken are very big on payback, regardless of whether or not the target actually deserves it. So if the Dark Lady says, "Hey, you're going to be a paladin. It will hurt like hell but you'll smash the living daylights out of the living", there's going to be a line halfway around the Undercity to sign up.

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