New Reporting Tools feedback

76 Gnome Death Knight
1275
I just wanted to first say kudos to Blizz for the update to the reporting tools. I'm typically not one to report anything as it simply doesn't bother me but I think it's important that people can report things that do bother them and the more convenient it is, the more likely folks will stand up for what's important to them.

My feedback is a suggestion for one more category. There is only one thing in this game that I would like to report people for, and that is hateful language, such as racist or homophobic remarks.

Swearing doesn't bother me and if it did, I would just turn on the profanity filter. Words of hate on the other hand, I take big issue with and see way too much of it in game. In fact, if it were up to me, there would be certain words that would trigger an automatic suspension or ban. I think the penalty for using such remarks should be far steeper than swearing and so I would suggest that it could be a separate thing to report.

Discriminatory remarks are not only universally and objectively wrong, they are, in fact, illegal in Canada where I play. I would really appreciate the ability to report people specifically for this single issue that I take offence to.

Thanks again for the update and hope you'll consider my suggestion
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87 Dwarf Warlock
1980
I think this should fall under the profanity filter (if it doesn't already). In America people have the right to free speech and although hate crimes are prosecuted, you can't stop someone from using a certain word. Although I agree that these remarks are wrong, if you can simply turn on a filter to have these remarks bleeped then I don't see why it's a problem. People who use hate speech are wrong but you won't change their beliefs by doing what you're proposing.
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90 Draenei Paladin
11520
04/19/2012 12:10 AMPosted by Brummig
I think this should fall under the profanity filter (if it doesn't already). In America people have the right to free speech and although hate crimes are prosecuted, you can't stop someone from using a certain word. Although I agree that these remarks are wrong, if you can simply turn on a filter to have these remarks bleeped then I don't see why it's a problem. People who use hate speech are wrong but you won't change their beliefs by doing what you're proposing.
There is no free speech in WoW. Just like in your home, I can't come in and say whatever I like without worry that you would throw me out.

This is Blizzards house, you can and will get thrown out for hate speech.

Edit: Ruffles, hate speech of any kind would be reported by right clicking the person and choosing language. Keep in mind that everyone has their "offensive meter". I might swear all the time with close freinds, but you wouldn't go into a restaraunt and shout obsenities and think everyone would be ok with it (you would be asked to stop, if you didn't you would get escorted out).
Edited by Cocoa on 4/19/2012 12:28 AM PDT
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76 Gnome Death Knight
1275
I understand the profanity filter. I think I was clear about that in my original post. As I mentioned in my post, I feel these things should be separate as swearing is the type of thing that someone should get a warning about, racism or homophobia should have a zero tolerance policy.

And while speech is free in America (and Canada too), hate isn't. People get sued all the time for using these words in America, so the penalty is just different.

And I agree with Cocoa, that this is Blizzard's game and it's really up to them what speech is free and what isn't. I actually applaud Blizzard's laid back approach to the whole thing. I'm just saying that it would be great to isolate words of discrimination and take a stand on it. It really is a big deal to me, which is why I made the request to separate it. I think it's a big deal to the silent majority as well.
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90 Dwarf Mage
10875
I like the new tool for reporting and the way its organized .

And more words need to be added to the profanity filter . Way too many horrid slang words get past it .

Good news, everyone! I've written an AddOn that can do just that. You can choose between masking the words you don't want to see with random symbols, replacing them with a single word of your choice or completely removing the chat messages with the offending words in them.

http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/customfilter
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info20982-CustomFilter.html
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90 Night Elf Death Knight
8625
I think the excuse "free speech" is taken way out of context these days. It's an excuse for people to be incompetently insensitive to one another, and it's much easier to do it behind the computer screen. I'm appalled in the lack of mannerisms amongst the WoW community. It's nothing but selfishness and greed, and I'm tired of it.
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90 Troll Priest
12105
Love the updated report options. Streamlining spam, names, and language reporting has made LFR a quieter, more enjoyable place.
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90 Draenei Hunter
10860
I was very happy to find this thread, as I had one question with the new set up.....

What do you classify a goldspammer as?

I've been considering them a cheater, but I'm not sure that would be the correct location to log them in at.
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85 Worgen Druid
2405
Do what I just did and cancel your sub. There are games to play where bullying and abusive behavior isn't tolerated. There are so many new games coming out now so if Blizzard doesn't care why pay them for a service so you can be mistreated?
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60 Human Death Knight
10940
04/19/2012 03:28 AMPosted by Doggystyling
Do what I just did and cancel your sub. There are games to play where bullying and abusive behavior isn't tolerated. There are so many new games coming out now so if Blizzard doesn't care why pay them for a service so you can be mistreated?

Blizzard's moderation system is/was fine (I preferred the old style because if you were truly offended, you'd take the time to open a ticket, but hey. Some people like the new way.) and "improving" it on the whims on a few players when they've already taken measures to prevent it -and- a mature language filter shouldn't be on top priority.

04/18/2012 11:54 PMPosted by Ruffles
. In fact, if it were up to me, there would be certain words that would trigger an automatic suspension or ban.

This is bad. What if someone is talking privately with their guild/guild raids/arena teams/party/etc.? Don't turn this into Club Penguin. >>

I don't want my guild chat and private player made channels to be censored.
Edited by Caristinn on 4/19/2012 4:12 AM PDT
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90 Blood Elf Warlock
10730
04/18/2012 11:54 PMPosted by Ruffles
My feedback is a suggestion for one more category. There is only one thing in this game that I would like to report people for, and that is hateful language, such as racist or homophobic remarks.

There is already an option for this.

Report Player -> Language

I'm normally very tolerant of people's language since I can make a sailor blush with casual conversation among my friends (then again, so can they sometimes lol), but most of them have the same opinion about such language when in pugs and around strangers; it's not necessary and shouldn't be done. I usually won't report someone for their language unless they're being immature about it or "attacking" another member of the group (typically some elitist child berating a new player).

I'm loving the new options, but I'm kinda sad at how easy it will make it to report names with special characters in them.
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85 Human Rogue
3420
I just wanted to first say kudos to Blizz for the update to the reporting tools. I'm typically not one to report anything as it simply doesn't bother me but I think it's important that people can report things that do bother them and the more convenient it is, the more likely folks will stand up for what's important to them.

My feedback is a suggestion for one more category. There is only one thing in this game that I would like to report people for, and that is hateful language, such as racist or homophobic remarks.

Swearing doesn't bother me and if it did, I would just turn on the profanity filter. Words of hate on the other hand, I take big issue with and see way too much of it in game. In fact, if it were up to me, there would be certain words that would trigger an automatic suspension or ban. I think the penalty for using such remarks should be far steeper than swearing and so I would suggest that it could be a separate thing to report.

Discriminatory remarks are not only universally and objectively wrong, they are, in fact, illegal in Canada where I play. I would really appreciate the ability to report people specifically for this single issue that I take offence to.

Thanks again for the update and hope you'll consider my suggestion


So how do you make these judgments, by your own personal standards or by standards set down by your Nation, even though some of those people are not citizens of your Nation and do not fall under your laws. Do we use cultural standards, I am 50 years old and am offended by the current hip hop culture, but if it's not directed towards me should I be offended. Where does the slope start and how slippery can we make it, where do you draw the line, when you start legislating feelings, emotions and thoughts because they make you uncomfortable, where do you stop?

It is easy to say I don’t like this type of speech but every time we bury our heads through legislative means, we don’t solve anything we cannot overcome our humanity no matter how many laws we pass trying to. Hate and bigotry are still out their even in Canada and it’s fostering, but names and insults loose their power over the individual if we do not allow them to have power over us. If you ignore the words, if you do not let the words offend you then and only then will the words fade away, you not the offender gives the words power. If you understand they are nothing more than syllables arranged to form words and nothing more then you cannot be offended by them and they have no power over you. We are all taught to overcome their deficits through our own personal strengths and forgive them for their weaknesses; we cannot do this hiding our eyes from them. I would rather have a thousand bigots cursing me to my face, because I know I am stronger than them, than have one festering in silence ready to do more harm than mere words can convey.
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