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Mastery, no wait.. crit, no wait... spirit...
Two extra ticks of HR when SWG is activated. Since end of the day SWG is used as a throughput cd and not a movement CD, at least this tier. |
No one really uses single target heals in LFR. It's mostly about keeping HR down and chain healing everything. Sounds like somebody hasn't mastered heal sniping yet. |
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Im posting for op cause we seem to have similar "spam hw maintin hr/rt" healing philosophy.
To come in here and say crit is wrong is just being a sheep. I am currently reforged mastery for heroic spine but prior was strictly 916? Haste and crit stacked. With Mage buff I was 35% crit. Does crit suffer from the worst conversion rates? Yes. Is it bad? No. Can I compete with other healers in heroic modes? Yes. It even did so for spine until plate 3. My ancestral awakening percentage wasn't as impressive as I hoped for being less than 10 percent of overall healing. But when you consider 200% larger heals over the previous 150 the crit boosted all my other healing regardless of targets health status. Is overhealing/pre healing with hw spam boring? Probably for some. Will it work on every fight in every comp? Probably not. If you've got the patience and gold reforge into crit usually from spirit (I tried to stay around 2200) |
Not sure that stating a tested fact is being a sheep but to each their own. Lots of people have tried crit, and it hasn't proved to be equal to either mastery or haste, or spirit for that matter. It's like say i can stack dodge and still heal somethiing so it must work. Now i don't hate crit, i don't reforge out of it, but i also don't do anything on purpose to get it. |
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Wrong and statistically inferior are not the same. If his guild doesn't enforce the mathematically accepted stats/specs then who are we to tell him what's wrong.
I was just saying do not follow the sheep because they say so. If you have the freedom to experiment or try quirky things (like dual wield chain heal in wrath) then by all means do it. In addition to that I was relating my experience with crit albeit in a small scope. Have you tried crit or did you just fire up elitist jerks and copy and paste? This directly translates to diablo 3 and it's "lack of choices," which is an entirely different topic for another forum but it begs to question if there's only one right choice why even give us choices? |
No need to. Healing Rain, Chain Heal, and SLT are all I need to do 30% of the healing, even in my gear. Granted it's LFR so people are probably being lazy, but there's no reason to even bother with heal sniping. |
in a discussion about how to be the best at healing with your shaman, statistically inferior and wrong are indeed the same thing. it's possible i misunderstood the op's request and mistakenly assumed he wanted to know the best way to set up his talents and gear but i somehow doubt he was looking for advice on how to play a mediocre shaman. despite your crying to the contrary, there is a certain flexibility in achieving the best however, other than for very specific circumstances, it does not involve taking crit over the other secondary stats. insinuating that harpoa slavishly obeys elitist jerks demonstrates appalling ignorance of the regulars around here. he gives solid advice and has the gameplay experience to back it up. |
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It's like Torramon 2.0 up in here. O_o
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Tried gemming straight crit/straight haste/straight spirit/ and a bunch of other variations. But that is neither here nor there as you seem to like to insult people. |
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Edited by Plux on 4/24/12 10:23 PM (PDT)
Totally agree.
It is a shame that people (Shanulu in this thread, but he/she is not the first and will not be the last) advocate poor play and try to bolster their arguments by calling others "sheep." This is the poorest justification for your arguments you can possibly give. There is a reason why the debate is over haste and mastery. There is a reason why crit is absolutely inferior in anything except very very specific circumstances (pre-nerf spine comes to mind, for the regen issues and the inability to LB due to the insane amount of healing required, rendering downtime non-existent). |
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ElitistJerks would probably tell you that Crit is a perfectly fine stat, which I guess is ironic given the argument proposed against Harpoa.
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I personally am not a fan of stacking crit as my main secondary stat. If I were you I would just stack mastery(916 haste atleast) and then crit. Also, you can do for 2005 haste and then rest mastery.
Another option is a high mastery/haste build and low spirit but you really need to know what you are doing. |
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I barely come here and even I know that Harpoa knows what he's talking about. |
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really? Wow! Learn something new every day! ... I still won't use it, but it's nice to know, haha! Does crit suffer from the worst conversion rates? Yes. Oh, geez. This argument again. If you're into min/maxing, the stat that suffers from the worst conversion rates is the worst (bad) stat. period. And for the sake of not misleading the OP, most people give advice as if they are looking to min/max. Because if we said, "well, crit isn't THAT horrible, you know...;;;" someone mioght come along and say "oh, this means that I should value crit>int, obviously!" And that isn't ideal. |
