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Being naive about his intensions will not clear your guild's name of being tagged as a ninja guild. If you do not condone this type of behavior why is he still in the guild? And let me mention for a second time that it wasn't only Vurb who was on that run from Outraged. It was Doughbizz and Camö as well.And lets not even get started on the "mature aspect" of it. When myself and the two other people who were upset over this tried to talk to Vurb about it we were simply told " if you dont like it. LEAVE". And not to mention the "umad" trolling from his two other minions when I said I had taken screen shots of it.

When I tried to get a hold of an officer soon after it happened I came accross an Outraged member who had a few things to say about you letting Vurb and his little crew get away with things like this. He mentioned that Vurb and his crew forced out a lot of good members from your guild from harassment and stealing from their own. I will keep this player anonymous since he is still a member of Outraged and was nice enough to tell me what he did.

Now as for Vurb "forgetting" to tell the raid he was rolling MS feral until his trinket dropped that's just shady. If he made the mistake of telling the raid after the fact then its his job to maintain the integrity of the raid and take his loss. I'm sure most most raid leaders (And I hesitate to call him one since he didn't even have vent and we wiped on spine 5x) would love the luxury of swapping specs depending on the loot that drops off each boss.

wow outraged! i am deeply ashamed of your guild. what is this madness??

Dear Preystalker....

First... Its not fair to say the guild ninja's at all.

First off a member in the guild...is the guild
Those shinny words under a characters name. When someone joins a guild they represent the guild. What Vurb did was dishonest he knew what he was doing when he knew the item dropped and thats prob why he took so long to do loot. And that fact that he didnt clearly state that he was rolling on items as feral..rather he is main spec'd for feral or not. I see it as he came into the raid as his main spec and he wasnt feral. He failed at clearly stating what his intent was for the loot. And if people want to say he ninja'd then yeah because even if he rolled on it. He still ninja'd it, he rolled on something he shouldnt have you can try to justify it as much as you want and say it was his raid his rules. The fact is he !@#$ed himself over and the guild when he did it.
People see people thru the guild they are in.

Edit: Just like when i see "Swims in lava" i think of Aidey and how he isnt human <_<

Lol.

dam girl u go hard on these forums

Just to add insult to injury Troublechild one of the people who wanted the trinket and WAS feral was in Swims in Lava (Vicerexcixer).

04/30/2012 03:03 PMPosted by Preystalker

Just to add insult to injury Troublechild one of the people who wanted the trinket and WAS feral was in Swims in Lava (Vicerexcixer).

can't say i care too much about people outside of our main raid lol. nonetheless, shady business from this guild, outraged.

Camo had nothing to do with the looting of that item so there is no need to talk bad about him.

I made the comment "umad" and Ill make it again because you were and clearly are mad. Also, we were in vent the entire raid, and the vent info was posted plenty of times. If we were not in vent how did you hear me say "umad?"

The guild member that is talking bad about our "crew", as you put it, must not have the facts straight. None of us have taken anything from the guild.

As far as Outraged. Good group of people, sucks to see you trash their names because you are mad at three people from the guild. Two of which had no way of "ninjaing" since we were not master looter. You lost roll. MS>OS. Vurb is MS Feral. He should have stated that from the get go, to please you children who will cry about losing loot. He didn't and sorry for him not doing that.

If I make Outraged look bad, and if they would like me to leave. I will gladly step out to clear their name.

You dont have to be in a vent to have someone say "umad" it can be typed out in raid/party/whispers easy.

^ Lol. Indeed ma'am.

04/30/2012 03:35 PMPosted by Doughbizz

I will gladly step out to clear their name.

It's already tarnished, the thread name says it all. Thats it. Done. No clearing of names. Your guilds life is over and will never be able to recruit decent raiders anymore! mwahahahaha!

Sounds like a pretty straightforward ninja to me. Your whole defense is "feral is my main spec, its obvious if you look at my armory."

You were not in this raid as a feral druid, and you didn't let the raid know BEFORE it started that you were rolling for a spec that you weren't playing in said raid.

Garbage.

Hmm im also just gonna throw this out here..
And say nothing would of been done if this issues was brought up to the guild leader or an officer. because Vurb is an officer in "Outraged"

Real disappointed in you outraged

The fact that their GM still tries to defend their actions speaks volumes of what kind of guild Outrage is.

Sorry to break it to you Doughbizz. But despite your trolling during the raid I wasn't kidding about taking the screenshots for all of Blackrock to see your guild's actions. If you look at the screenshots you will see that the hunter in the raid is also confused about Vurb rolling on it and clearly upset.

So to point the finger at me and say I'm just overreacting or bitter because I lost a roll is not a valid arguement.

I see you weren't kidding. Good job man! Thumbs up to you for whining on the forums. Thumbs up to you for sticking to your word. I also stick to mine. I messaged him talking about what you said. Now its in his hands, not mine. GL to you.

Vurb is a real shxt head if you ask me what kinda weak move is that

So here it goes. I'm simply going to get down to what happened so you all have a fair warning on pugging with this guild.

Wrath of the Unchaining drops and only myself a (rogue) and hunter are eligible to use it via the loot rules that were stated initially during the run MS>OS. Usually a non shady RL will post the item in RW as soon as he can open the chest so loot can be distributed asap so we can finish the raid as soon as possible. Well needless to say the RL (Vurb) took at least 2 minutes after linking the items to tell the raid to roll. My guess is he was talking in gchat or whispers to his guildies who were in the raid over wether he should ninja the item or not.

After the long wait he links the agi trinket and says he's rolling on the trinket as boomy because he only had the 390 LFR version. When the hunter and I asked why he was rolling on it as a caster he said, " I didnt know I was supposed to tell you im here as MS feral". When I told him that it wasn't fair to roll on it because he hadn't mentioned to us that he was coming as ms feral he replied with " I won the roll get over it", and the usual !@#$ style raid leading "if you dont like it leave".

So in short, he will choose a spec that is convenient to the loot that drops and will roll on it. If he losses the roll I'd likely bet that he's going to take it anyway. Below are the sreenshots and sorry for the poor quality.

http://s1147.photobucket.com/albums/o548/petorian17/?action=view&current=WoWScrnShot_042912_221151.jpg

That isn't ninjaing but it is messed up. Changing your MS in mid raid from Caster to Damage is frowned upon, but it was YOUR responsiblity to clarify that before the raid started. You needed to ask, "Is everyone rolling MS on loot based on the spec they're raiding in currently?"
If you don't get responses in the raid chat then leave. Yeah it seems anal, but you HAVE to specify.

04/30/2012 01:32 PMPosted by Cerdiwen

Second, before you label a guild, talk to the GM and let them deal with it before you label ALL guildies as ninja's.

Doesn't matter, one guildy makes it look bad for the rest of the guild. Your players represent your guild and what they stand for. People are free to do what they want, but the name is forever tainted. WTB guild name change? lol

=)

who cares honestly.

it isn't going to help them progress any further even with 20% nerf.

lol, jokes on them.

stay classy folks.

I think I love you....on a side note Vurb is a real prick who pulls weak !@#$ like that -_-

I would just like to let everyone know that I am very torn by these allegations and I grieve for the affected parties. No one should have their pixels stolen from them, ever.

On a side not, free advertisement I guess? I think it worked for BP

04/30/2012 06:55 PMPosted by Jayhood

On a side not, free advertisement I guess? I think it worked for BP

If by free advertisement you mean having your guild looked at as a bunch of people who are all for people who "ninja" items from other players in the game then yes :) free advertisement for you