Topic Hemo or Backstab for PvP?
Kiwe
Area 52
Kiwe
90 Pandaren Rogue
12395
Except none of that is true. The only thing you don't take seriously is the truth.


Good lord is there ANYONE on this forum you haven't picked a fight with yet for just about anything?
Lifsha
Firetree
Lifsha
85 Undead Rogue
5970
05/03/2012 10:35 PMPosted by Kiwe
Except none of that is true. The only thing you don't take seriously is the truth.


Good lord is there ANYONE on this forum you haven't picked a fight with yet for just about anything?


Nonsense and more nonsense is just about all I ever see on these forms. The ignorance on these forms can be overwhelming at time.

Most of the time i just ignore it or I more interested in doing something else and do not care enough to put out the correct information out. Though sometimes I feel sympathetic enough for posters that are actually looking for legit information to improve their game to put out worth while information. Also because Cata is coming to an end and the way rogue play is going to drastically change I don't mind sharing a few tricks that give an edge because they are going to be obsolete anyways. I was pretty sad when vanish got changed because vanish dynamics were a thing that gave me a large edge over other rogues because only a few players truly understood how to use them.

Last, that guy don't even care enough to scroll up and read his name. Already got educated by me months ago when he didn't even know that you were supposed to use way-backstab in rmp. The fact after i taught him how to spec in RMP months ago and now he would say something as absurd as i would rmp as hemo is outrages denial of reality.
Snozyisback
Sargeras
Snozyisback
1 Human Rogue
0
Edited by Snozyisback on 5/4/12 12:26 AM (PDT)
05/03/2012 09:59 PMPosted by Lifsha
Except none of that is true.


All three things are

L2rogue basics

05/03/2012 09:59 PMPosted by Lifsha
The only thing you don't take seriously is the truth


Says the guy with a 63% winloss @ 1900 playing RMP with 12 expertise.

Last, that guy don't even care enough to scroll up and read his name. Already got educated by me months ago when he didn't even know that you were supposed to use way-backstab in rmp. The fact after i taught him how to spec in RMP months ago and now he would say something as absurd as i would rmp as hemo is outrages denial of reality.


You have me confused with someone else.

You have never "educated me"

Even more ironic considering I just started posting on the rogue forums. But hey keep making things up to try to look better and fall flat on your face.

You are just another RBG hero that cant break 2k now with the MMR fix

There is a reason why you cant break 2k as RMP now that MMR was fixed
Lifsha
Firetree
Lifsha
85 Undead Rogue
5970
Edited by Lifsha on 5/4/12 12:29 AM (PDT)
Except none of that is true.


All three things are

L2rogue basics

The only thing you don't take seriously is the truth


Says the guy with a 63% winloss @ 1900 playing RMP with 12 expertise.

Last, that guy don't even care enough to scroll up and read his name. Already got educated by me months ago when he didn't even know that you were supposed to use way-backstab in rmp. The fact after i taught him how to spec in RMP months ago and now he would say something as absurd as i would rmp as hemo is outrages denial of reality.


You have me confused with someone else.

You have never "educated me"

Even more ironic considering I just started posting on the rogue forums. But hey keep making things up to try to look better and fall flat on your face.


Negative kid. I taught you rogue basics in rmp, i don't need to hear you spew at me like a parrot hearing you weak imitation of what i taught you in the first place months ago while you were stumbling around like Helen Keller on uneven ground trying to get a grasp on the well know basics.

My comp I play is RLS. I don't play RMP. So stop smoking rocks kid, or keep smoking rocks but at least have the sense to look at paste threads...

Hell, you even might want to go back right now and delete all the evidence you can of you pathetic posts in the past of you not having a clue before I necro them back up.
Snozyisback
Sargeras
Snozyisback
1 Human Rogue
0
Negative kid. I taught you rogue basics in rmp, i don't need to hear you spew at me like a parrot hearing you weak imitation of what i taught you in the first place months ago while you were stumbling around like Helen Keller on uneven ground trying to get a grasp on the well know basics.


ROFL no you didnt but if you feel the need to lie about it go for it.

My comp I play is RLS. I don't play RMP. So stop smoking rocks kid, or keep smoking rocks but at least have the sense to look at paste threads...


http://us.battle.net/wow/en/arena/firetree/3v3/ASDFGH/

DERP

Looks like RMP to me

05/04/2012 12:28 AMPosted by Lifsha
Hell, you even might want to go back right now and delete all the evidence you can of you pathetic posts in the past of you not having a clue before I necro them back up.


Rofl go for it.

Then see how badly I trolled you.
Lifsha
Firetree
Lifsha
85 Undead Rogue
5970
Edited by Lifsha on 5/4/12 12:43 AM (PDT)
[quote]

Then see how badly I trolled you.


Now you post makes sense. You are just trolling. No way a human being could actually be as stupid as you are portraying yourself to be.

In other news for snoztroll

Oh look woundman is terrible.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/arena/kelthuzad/2v2/EAT%20EM%20DEVO/

he is 13-9 and stuck at 1231 in 2s.
Snozyisback
Sargeras
Snozyisback
1 Human Rogue
0
Edited by Snozyisback on 5/4/12 12:43 AM (PDT)
Now you post makes sense. You are just trolling. No way a human being could actually be as stupid as you are portraying yourself to be.


Wheres those only posts at Lifsha?

Or was it because they dont exist.

The only one being an idiot is the hemo rogue playing RMP without being capped on basics and struggling to break 2k.

I taught you rogue basics in rmp, i don't need to hear you spew at me like a parrot hearing you weak imitation of what i taught you in the first place months ago while you were stumbling around like Helen Keller on uneven ground trying to get a grasp on the well know basics.


BTW did you skip the chapter on capping expertise?
Lifsha
Firetree
Lifsha
85 Undead Rogue
5970
05/04/2012 12:41 AMPosted by Snozyisback
Now you post makes sense. You are just trolling. No way a human being could actually be as stupid as you are portraying yourself to be.


Wheres those only posts at Lifsha?

Or was it because they dont exist.

The only one being an idiot is the hemo rogue playing RMP without being capped on basics and struggling to break 2k.

I taught you rogue basics in rmp, i don't need to hear you spew at me like a parrot hearing you weak imitation of what i taught you in the first place months ago while you were stumbling around like Helen Keller on uneven ground trying to get a grasp on the well know basics.


BTW did you skip the chapter on capping expertise?


How many times do you have to be told. I don't play RMP I play RLS.

Secondly, you have no clue what my gear is like cause I do not wear what I arena in when log out in the armory.

Thirdly, I am not even in arena mode right now. I transfered to this server to get the Legendary daggers.

I am not even playing arenas for rating until late in the season, where I am going to server transfer to play with my teamates I already got lined up.
Snozyisback
Sargeras
Snozyisback
1 Human Rogue
0
Edited by Snozyisback on 5/4/12 12:53 AM (PDT)
How many times do you have to be told. I don't play RMP I play RLS.


Team says otherwise, and even if you plan on playing RLS 66 gold isnt that expensive to pay to respec.

05/04/2012 12:48 AMPosted by Lifsha
Secondly, you have no clue what my gear is like cause I do not wear what I arena in when log out in the armory.


Dont want people to see you rocking 2 piece t13?

Comical you actually log out in "different" gear.

Thirdly, I am not even in arena mode right now. I transfered to this server to get the Legendary daggers.


You actually payed to transfer just for legendarys? You are more sad than I thought

05/04/2012 12:48 AMPosted by Lifsha
am not even playing arenas for rating until late in the season, where I am going to server transfer to play with my teamates I already got lined up.


How much you paying for the title carry?

Either way just keep up with the excuses and pretend like you have a clue <3
Lifsha
Firetree
Lifsha
85 Undead Rogue
5970
05/04/2012 12:53 AMPosted by Snozyisback
How many times do you have to be told. I don't play RMP I play RLS.


Team says otherwise, and even if you plan on playing RLS 66 gold isnt that expensive to pay to respec.

05/04/2012 12:48 AMPosted by Lifsha
Secondly, you have no clue what my gear is like cause I do not wear what I arena in when log out in the armory.


Dont want people to see you rocking 2 piece t13?

Comical you actually log out in "different" gear.

Thirdly, I am not even in arena mode right now. I transfered to this server to get the Legendary daggers.


You actually payed to transfer just for legendarys? You are more sad than I thought

05/04/2012 12:48 AMPosted by Lifsha
am not even playing arenas for rating until late in the season, where I am going to server transfer to play with my teamates I already got lined up.


How much you paying for the title carry?

Either way just keep up with the excuses and pretend like you have a clue <3


50 dollars maybe is a comically large amount of money to spend for you. For me that isn't even a night out on the town and I am sure most adults would agree with me, kid. The fact that you think server transfers are expansive is pretty childish, just wait until you get out in the real world with real expenses to pay.

Not at all, I have several sets of gear for different functions. I don't run around in the gear I arena in so naturally it is unlikely I am going to be wearing it when i log off furthermore I don't really arena right now, unless someone asks me too or I am just that bored mostly been playing the dota2 beta and haven't been even logging on much. All my gearing is standard for every spec or comp that i play around with.

66 gold? Did it occur to you maybe i don't care about spending that thrice? I have 14,121 gold spend on talent specs. You couldn't be more wrong.

The sad but amusing part in sick way is you are giving me a hard time for being non-elitist and nice to people. I play with players of all skill levels up until the end of an arena season.
I played about a month ago with some mage guy from Austria in middle of night. Got him his 1750 achievement. The man was ecstatic on skype.

You would be surprised how rewarding it can be just making some random person night better than they probable ever had before in wow. Not to mention I get a little thrill out of how amazed these players get when they mess up start super bad and I end up 2 v 1 a team. Yah, 2 v 1 double dps in 1600 isn't an amazing feat to me, however to these guys who struggle at that rating it is shocking. They literally got nuts in skype and it is is pretty enjoyable to listen to.

If there was a statistic that keeps track of how many times other players have gotten achievement in arena playing with you not many players would have more than me, outside people who are doing it for money.

I have never and will never pay for any in game achievement, the ironic part of you stupid accusation is I have actually be ask before by someone who used to be in the same guild as me back when i was on Tich to do a carry for money one night the guy they were planning to do it with didn't show up, which I refused to do.
Darkråi
Sargeras
Darkråi
1 Human Hunter
0
50 dollars maybe is a comically large amount of money to spend for you. For me that isn't even a night out on the town and I am sure most adults would agree with me, kid. The fact that you think server transfers are expansive is pretty childish, just wait until you get out in the real world with real expenses to pay.


I wasnt laughing at the amount. I was laughing that your oso awful you have to server change to get them.

05/04/2012 01:48 AMPosted by Lifsha
I have never and will never pay for any in game achievement, the ironic part of you stupid accusation is I have actually be ask before by someone who used to be in the same guild as me back when i was on Tich to do a carry for money one night the guy they were planning to do it with didn't show up, which I refused to do


Blah Blah Blah

All talk and excuses from you
Sheevah
Kael'thas
Sheevah
10 Goblin Rogue
8435


This is the perfect example what separates rogue that think they know things on paper and those that actually have a deep understanding of how in game dynamics work by play testing and experience.


Apparently, you have no idea what a ":P" implies. So, take this as a moment to educate yourself.

":P" Implies a playful comment or one that is made partially in jest. Something along the lines of "I agree with you for the most part, but there are other options."

Maybe you think landing a single attack that does 20 percent more damage than another isn't a big deal to me that is nonsense. I am going to push every edge possible and yes 3k more damage can be the difference in getting a kill or not,


I think that having to paint a perfect picture to support the idea that the use of backstab has a reliable place in a Hemo playstyle is indicative that there is no material impact for backstab in that setup.

This entire thread is just another example to support my claim that you aren't a native English speaker and work out to be more like a parasite on the forums. It's sad, really.
Lysergic
Blade's Edge
Lysergic
85 Human Rogue
2010
B-B-but he plays RLS or that is to say he will play RLS hes currently playing RMP but he will be playing RLS so that means he runs RLS also only morons run 20/20 expertise.

Going out of your way to log out in different gear is kinda funny too.
Knocrogue
Crushridge
Knocrogue
90 Blood Elf Rogue
12485
Edited by Knocrogue on 5/4/12 5:14 AM (PDT)
Oh look woundman is terrible.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/arena/kelthuzad/2v2/EAT%20EM%20DEVO/

he is 13-9 and stuck at 1231 in 2s.


Firstly, why did you bring up Woundman? I'm confused.
Secondly, he's with a hunter. :S
Thirdly, OMG Night Elf! You'd think he'd be a human FOTM.
Griev
Shadowmoon
Griev
85 Night Elf Rogue
3865
I still hemo in bs spec....i dont bs as hemo tho.

spec i pick really depends what im doing. I mainly like bgs. if its a resource map where i need to survive waiting for help while guarding a flag, im hemo. in CTF where i need burst to assault efc or defend my fc, i go BS. if im doing arena 2's to cap and im with a healer i sometimes go for waylay/bs since i dont get many HaT procs in that comp.

just do what u like and most importantly, have fun doing it. i would only advise against BS if you run over 100ms.
Occulo
Zul'jin
Occulo
85 Night Elf Rogue
9635
05/04/2012 05:14 AMPosted by Knocrogue
Firstly, why did you bring up Woundman? I'm confused.

I think his point was that current arena rating is pretty meaningless and attacking someone based on it (as Snotz did) is stupid. Especially as both Snotz and Lifsha have pretty much the same "highest 3v3 rating".

Woundmanirl is clearly a better player than both of them, with his 3k max rating.
Yet, his current teams are low, he only has 8 expertise in a hemo build and his spec looks weird.
Basically, everything Snotz accused Lifsha of.

Kinda sad how this discussion degraded - and I blame both of them.
Griev
Shadowmoon
Griev
85 Night Elf Rogue
3865
05/04/2012 04:27 AMPosted by Lysergic
only morons run 20/20 expertise


cant tell if troll...
Snozyisback
Sargeras
Snozyisback
1 Human Rogue
0
think his point was that current arena rating is pretty meaningless and attacking someone based on it (as Snotz did) is stupid. Especially as both Snotz and Lifsha have pretty much the same "highest 3v3 rating".


The difference is I am at my caps and not makign excuses that I log out in other gear.

Not to mention I havent seen him over 2k since the MMR reset/deflation.

Woundmanirl is clearly a better player than both of them, with his 3k max rating.
Yet, his current teams are low, he only has 8 expertise in a hemo build and his spec looks weird.
Basically, everything Snotz accused Lifsha of.


Agreed. However just because Woundman is at 8 expertise depends on his playstyle.
Just like Khuna doesnt cap it. However they are playing with partners that are miles ahead of either myself or Lifsha or the fact that Woundman is doing 2s with a hunter where hemo is usually better and not RMP where backstab is clearly better. Not to mention Lifsha does nothing but make excuses ontop of excuses.
Andrraste
Thrall
Andrraste
90 Night Elf Rogue
14420
05/04/2012 03:47 PMPosted by Snozyisback
Not to mention Lifsha does nothing but make excuses ontop of excuses.


But this is only a game. You take this stuff way to serious. They're just meaningless pixels. I suspect you have a serious mental disorder. Blah blah blah Now off to rip the heads off bunnies in front of 5 year olds, or whatever I do for fun :P
Lifsha
Firetree
Lifsha
85 Undead Rogue
5970
05/04/2012 03:47 PMPosted by Snozyisback
think his point was that current arena rating is pretty meaningless and attacking someone based on it (as Snotz did) is stupid. Especially as both Snotz and Lifsha have pretty much the same "highest 3v3 rating".


The difference is I am at my caps and not makign excuses that I log out in other gear.

Not to mention I havent seen him over 2k since the MMR reset/deflation.

Woundmanirl is clearly a better player than both of them, with his 3k max rating.
Yet, his current teams are low, he only has 8 expertise in a hemo build and his spec looks weird.
Basically, everything Snotz accused Lifsha of.


Agreed. However just because Woundman is at 8 expertise depends on his playstyle.
Just like Khuna doesnt cap it. However they are playing with partners that are miles ahead of either myself or Lifsha or the fact that Woundman is doing 2s with a hunter where hemo is usually better and not RMP where backstab is clearly better. Not to mention Lifsha does nothing but make excuses ontop of excuses.


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05/04/2012 04:13 PMPosted by Andrraste
Not to mention Lifsha does nothing but make excuses ontop of excuses.


But this is only a game. You take this stuff way to serious. They're just meaningless pixels. I suspect you have a serious mental disorder. Blah blah blah Now off to rip the heads off bunnies in front of 5 year olds, or whatever I do for fun :P


You have the right mindset.

When feel like playing I log on a play. I will just play with whoever is online and wants to play at the momentum. Sure, i do like to go for rating towards the end of the season and see how i can do with a legit team but i also enjoy just playing around and having a good time too.

Snotnosedkid, is the epitome of the insecure gamer, but the thing is nobody care about your bro so stop wasting your time with your posing and nonsensical BS. You are about 7 beneath top tier so why you making a big deal over in reality your nonexistent status anyways. The least you could do is accurately relay how to top players are playing instead of parroting incorrectly so other people have to clean up after you mess.

The only rogues worth even following can be listed on one hand. Original, khuna, woundman,... a couple more perhaps but they don't even come to mind.

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