Topic Druid Mastery vs Other Healers
Strawberry
Garrosh
Strawberry
40 Night Elf Hunter
640
I am just curious as to why druids are the only healers who must activate a short duration buff for their mastery?

It does not proc or is a passive buff like shaman, pally or priest mastery, and is only a short duration buff. Monks will also be a proc type mastery if it is kept in current form from the beta to live. In PvE it is not as much of an issue, however, in PvP sometimes to hard cast would mean to be interrupted. Not to mention times where you may not be hard casting but rather placed some hots they are not buffed because it is required to hard cast to get the buff. In order to keep it up the druid needs to cast a hard cast spell roughly every 8 seconds.
Munkeechick
Dalvengyr
Munkeechick
85 Draenei Shaman
10485
they made it that way so druids DO have to occasionally hard cast, rather than just stack mastery and never have a cast bar to interrupt at all.

same with the pve side of it, they want druids hard casting, so they made it so druids have to cast to get their mastery.

it's also why druids avoid mastery like the plague in most cases though, so I guess all they did succeed in was making the druid mastery unappealing to the player base.
Hammarz
Kilrogg
Hammarz
85 Human Paladin
3665
Think the shaman is talking about Pvp when saying druids avoid mastery...would be my guess.
Pipikaula
Madoran
Pipikaula
90 Tauren Druid
14785
In PvP, druids should be stacking rogues and warlocks, not mastery.
Oldwolfe
Moon Guard
Oldwolfe
85 Worgen Priest
3350
04/30/2012 11:51 AMPosted by Pipikaula
In PvP, druids should be stacking rogues and warlocks, not mastery.


I thought they stacked DK's and Pallies for facerolling?
Pipikaula
Madoran
Pipikaula
90 Tauren Druid
14785
04/30/2012 11:53 AMPosted by Oldwolfe
In PvP, druids should be stacking rogues and warlocks, not mastery.


I thought they stacked DK's and Pallies for facerolling?

You stack DKs and Pallies to faceroll the other healers. You stack rogues and warlocks to peel for you.

Priests should stack priests for Leap of Faith lulz.
Gloostick
Tichondrius
Gloostick
90 Night Elf Druid
7230
Cast one nourish between Swiftmend CDs.

Ta-da.
Oldwolfe
Moon Guard
Oldwolfe
85 Worgen Priest
3350
Cast one nourish between Swiftmend CDs.

Ta-da.


/cast Silence while you cast Nourish.
Gloostick
Tichondrius
Gloostick
90 Night Elf Druid
7230
04/30/2012 12:06 PMPosted by Oldwolfe
/cast Silence while you cast Nourish.

You can silence outside of a Nourish! Way better than getting kicked in the teeth.

Though the situation was really more for PvE.

In PvP, I'm pretty sure you just run and regret your class choice.
Oldwolfe
Moon Guard
Oldwolfe
85 Worgen Priest
3350
04/30/2012 12:10 PMPosted by Gloostick
/cast Silence while you cast Nourish.

You can silence outside of a Nourish! Way better than getting kicked in the teeth.

Though the situation was really more for PvE.

In PvP, I'm pretty sure you just run and regret your class choice.


Well, Silence also has an interrupt effect(hence why my shadow spec has it), so it can be an effective tool in locking down a caster.

For PvE, maintaining Harmony is actually fairly easy, and is generally what you said: nourish half way between swiftmends.
Pipikaula
Madoran
Pipikaula
90 Tauren Druid
14785
04/30/2012 12:10 PMPosted by Gloostick
In PvP, I'm pretty sure you just run and regret your class choice.

Not at all! I usually cast Nature's Grasp before running and regretting my class choice.
Buffyria
Bladefist
Buffyria
90 Blood Elf Priest
14235
It's funny when you're in a Battleground and a large group of Alliance just railroad you into the ground, all the while your teammates aren't assisting you.

I say "funny" because all those enemy players are in a hurry to throw every Interrupt, Stun, CC, and Silence on you as soon as possible. Sometimes Diminishing Returns bites them hard, lol.
Pruflas
Bronzebeard
Pruflas
90 Tauren Shaman
8655
Why does it amuse me that this thread got knocked off the rails so quickly? lol

My name is Pruf, and I stack mastery on my druid (after the 2005 haste point of course).

Now try convincing my GM that 3k spi is a lot. I'm sitting at 2500 after I've reforged out of all of my spi to mastery =P Oh look, I can reforge more, I should do that. Maybe 2500 is too much.
Tenala
Wyrmrest Accord
Tenala
85 Blood Elf Paladin
5380
Unrelated, but if you're worried about being interrupted in PvP, just do unrated BGs! I hardcast constantly with tons of rogues and warriors and paladins on me, and almost never actually get interrupted! I think they took away their interrupts for unrated BGs, or something.
Buffyria
Bladefist
Buffyria
90 Blood Elf Priest
14235
04/30/2012 01:30 PMPosted by Tenala
Unrelated, but if you're worried about being interrupted in PvP, just do unrated BGs! I hardcast constantly with tons of rogues and warriors and paladins on me, and almost never actually get interrupted! I think they took away their interrupts for unrated BGs, or something.


Bad Pummel/Kick.
Strawberry
Garrosh
Strawberry
40 Night Elf Hunter
640
Druids are kind of made to go for mastery after hitting the 2005 haste rating needed just because crit is terrible and for the most part hitting the next useful haste break point is extremely difficult. It is more of a PvP problem. Shamans for example need to hard cast to proc their mastery, however they don't have to cast to gain a short duration buff to be able to use half of the usefulness of their mastery. Yes druids do get the buff on direct healing spells but a lot of healing especially in PvP is hotting and running.
Strawberry
Garrosh
Strawberry
40 Night Elf Hunter
640
Edited by Strawberry on 4/30/12 2:20 PM (PDT)
It is somewhat of a proc based upon the targets health the lower the health the higher the output of the mastery, but what I am saying is that they just cast and their mastery kicks in. Where as druids must hard cast before casting any hots to get the full benefit of their mastery.

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