You're comparing Nazgrel, a server with 8800 lvl 85s to Hyjal with 21,000. In fact all servers in the top 100 have over 10,000 except 2, they are 94 and 95 and they both have 700 more 85s then us. a few hundred extra 85s works wonders when it comes to a talent pool. Think of it like this, the best high school or even college football programs usually come from higher population schools. High Schools with 1000-2000 kids usually dominate the conference while the schools with 500-1000 kids are usually at the bottom.
We're a Medium to Low pop server with a casual raiding environment. I know this might be hard for some to accept but even the most progressed guilds on Nazgrel like Chain Pull and Jinx only raid 10-12 hours a week. That is pretty casual. Most high end raiding guilds raid for 15+ hours a week and the really good ones raid 8 hours a day, 5+ days a week during progression. They also have extras around and people with multiple geared toons to fill a hole in case someone misses or to class stack for certain fights.
The fact is, most people aren't willing to commit the time it takes to progress on content. In Chain Pull we wiped almost 200 times on Heroic Spine before we got it. Paragon wiped 500 times on Heroic Rag before they got it. There are people on this server that QQ after one wipe. Imagine them after wiping 25+ times during a 4 hour raid night.
You want to progression raid, come prepared to wipe over and over. Look at logs, correct people. You have to check your ego at the door. I still get reminded by guildies that I got hit by a fire wall 3 attempts in a row the first time I ever did Rag. You screw up here you get called out, it's that simple. Hardcore guilds are even worse. They'll spend time between every attempt looking at logs and seeing what happened.
Logs are not just to see how high you can rank on the meters but to see what you got hit by?, how much it hit you for?, can it be avoided?, can it be healed thru?, do we need more DPS on a different target?, are people padding meters or boss camping instead of doing their job?, does the strat that we're using work with our raid comp?, etc...
How many people on this server actually consult with the top end guilds either on this server or else where as to how to down a boss? I know Fus does and very few people come to him for advice on what worked for Chain Pull. When he is more than willing to talk about strat with other people, particularly after we've downed the boss. Just cause you watched a video one time doesn't mean you have all the knowledge necessary to down the boss. On many bosses, especially heroic, there is always some quirky thing that has to be done by either one person or everyone to help get the boss down that no video explains fully.
If you want this server to be a serious, successful, raiding server, then people need to take it seriously.
Edited by Curufingon on 5/9/2012 4:37 PM PDT