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Enhancement NEEDS a legendary!!!!!
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So the other day i was thinking what classes and specs have not had a legendary.....its enhancement we are the only ones in the 8 years of wow to not get one yet how is this fair at all every other class and spec has had one. comment if you want.
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Sulfuras.
inb4 "doesn't count," she said 8 years |
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sulfaras doesn't count because that is like saying sulfaras was for ret pallys, sure we could use it but bringing enhance shamans to a raid was like bring ret pally to a raid not going to happen
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Vanilla wasn't exactly the pinnacle of spec balance. OP talked about Enhancement getting a legendary, and we did.
Also, Feral hasn't gotten one. |
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isnt the MoP legendary the breath of the black prince? which just upgrades anyones weapon to legendary status and stats?
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No one knows how that's going to work, at the moment it's all just speculation.
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gotcha, tbh, i hope it doesnt work like im thinking.... too many legendaries devalues the interest in actually getting one.
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Assuming it just upgrades a weapon to legendary status (Or probably just awards you with a weapon relevant to your spec) it doesn't put more legendaries out there in terms of quantity. It just means you have a lot more variety, and people will probably be picked based on their standing with the guild unless an area of their raid comp is struggling.
Also, tally on that disc hasn't gotten a legendary. Valanyr was piss poor for disc priests, and they were very strong for ICC especially for fights like LK and infest. Couldn't just respec holy and use it. |
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A friend of mine thinks that the Breath of the Black Prince may be Blizzard's way of implementing a tanking legendary that all tanks could use, but we'll have to see.
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Windfury totem |
well yes and no... looking at cata's legendaries, especially DTR, we saw tons of big progressions guilds farm out their better casters to lesser raid groups so that after they all got DTR they could come back and stack the raid with 8 o 9 DTRS in the same amount of time it took to get 1 or 2. but with breath of the black prince it could be much, much worse. I mean, you can only compose your raid of so many casters that can then be farmed out... with breath, you could farm out all 25 people, then make a super raid of 25 legendary wielding people. Also, dont know how useful breath-weapons will be for PVP, but fighting against a double legendary using caster-cleave was such a pain (or a double legendary RLS) imagine a Trip DPS Ret/Rogue/Dk and everyone has breath of the black prince enhanced weapons. |
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Ret pallies did get to raid. Raids liked Blessing of kings. |
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Edited by Harlintola on 5/26/12 5:32 PM (PDT)
Vanilla wasn't exactly the pinnacle of spec balance. OP talked about Enhancement getting a legendary, and we did. no offense meant i just noticed an opportunity to slip ret sucking in vanilla in anyways to answer the question, it's just speculation but next expansion it seems like there is going to be an item to upgrade certain items to legendary with differences depending on the weapon type you use it on for all classes and specs |
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Edited by Moltenhoof on 5/28/12 11:01 AM (PDT)
This is not true for Enhancement in vanilla. Problem most people had back then was attempting to build an Enhancement set using tier gear, and by doing that gimped themselves. Back then, if you built a set out of all off-piece/non-tier gear with nothing but dps stats on it, then you kept up with everyone else just fine and were a viable dps. Problem was, most people were obsessed with tier gear and/or only took what they could get (mostly because there were so few drops compared to the raid size) and ended up with a random bunch of gear. As for Sulfuras being a viable weapon for Enhancement; true it was useful and best in slot, but then again, it was best in slot of any 2Hed weapon user, but was not best in the hands of a Shaman. It was worth having, but any raid leader looking to get the biggest bang out of completing it would give it to the class that would benefit from it the most. Of course the most glaring point was that for some Shaman, the road to completion was so long (thank you RNG) that by the time they actually completed it, Patch 2.0 had been released and from that point on, DWing was better than 2Hed use, therefore making it pointless to obtain in comparison to lower tier weapons. |
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Why remove pvp?
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So by this logic Sulfuras didn't count as a legendary at all because what you've said was true of every spec that could use it. Warriors were go tank or don't raid, and Shaman/Paladins/Druids were go healer or don't raid for the most part. Though your ret paladin example is singularly unfortunate for you, as every good raid had 1 token ret paladin to bring Bleesing of Kings to the raid (which was at the time their 31-point talent.) The only spec that hasn't really used a legendary is Feral, though technically one was BiS for them. The Sulfuras proc didn't work for them and as such none of them wanted to use it, and Atiesh was so rare and so obviously better on Restoration that I'd guess that no Feral received one.
That's also rather untrue. Any raid leader looking to get the biggest bang out of completing it would give it to the player that had (the best combination of) both the most skill & the lowest likelihood of leaving the guild. Both of those should always be considerations over what class will get the most out of it, and even among top guilds skill levels vary enough that these considerations are at a minimum just as important as the class receiving the legendary. |
