Comprehensive Gaming PC/Laptop Buying Guide

85 Orc Death Knight
5175
06/16/2012 09:54 PMPosted by Kalganized
Sager's is too, probably. Both use the same Clevo chassis.


Yea, but after doing a lot of reading around, Sager has said that they do not support it being upgrade-able. Also, from what I read, the new GTX 680 and the AMD 7970 both would need a higher AC adapter (180w) than the ones available to both the Sager and the Lotus(120w). Is it possible to upgrade an AC adapter?
90 Blood Elf Paladin
8895
Yeah, but I wouldn't consider upgrading the GPU later on, as there are quite a bit of work you have to do, and the costs of these graphics cards are exorbitant.
85 Orc Death Knight
5175
I noticed that, but I'm sure the GTX 670 will more more than fine for my needs, in any case. I do like this site much better than Xoticpc, even though it has less of a variety. It wouldn't be a bad idea, in my opinion, to add that into the laptop section. The $50 off a $1500 purchase is a pretty sweet deal.
90 Blood Elf Paladin
8895
Yeah, I don't know why I didn't mention Clevo builds. I will do so.
85 Orc Death Knight
5175
Yay, I helped improve the guide.
85 Orc Warrior
7800
Stoneshield:

There are multiple versions of P8Z77-V. Which one are you specifically referring to?


The regular one. This one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131820
90 Blood Elf Paladin
8895
Well, it's $190, and it does not support tri-SLi/XFire. If you don't mind paying that much for the motherboard, you can go for it.
90 Human Warrior
9980
If anybody cares, the Sabertooth is an amazing mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131821
85 Orc Warrior
7800
06/16/2012 10:54 PMPosted by Kalganized
Well, it's $190, and it does not support tri-SLi/XFire. If you don't mind paying that much for the motherboard, you can go for it.


Hmm okay, I'll stick with my Extreme6 then. No black PCB but oh well, not like I'm ever going to look at that :O. (A nice PCB is a must for a GPU though!).

Do you know if the Extreme6 does well at OCing?
Edited by Stoneshield on 6/16/2012 11:40 PM PDT
90 Blood Elf Paladin
8895
All these motherboards will see you through 4.5 GHz easy.

Note Extreme6 doesn't support tri-SLi/Xfire either.
Edited by Kalganized on 6/16/2012 11:44 PM PDT
85 Orc Warrior
7800
Yeah it's not a big deal. If I were to SLI/Xfire I'd be only doing 2 anyways. But just in case, if you had to say which is better out of the Extreme6 and the regular p8z77-v ignoring pricing, which is better? (I'm ordering today, that's why).

I need a new router too for this upgraded build. I can't spend more than $40 shipped, which of these two would you suggest?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122461 (Netgear)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127241 (D-Link)
Edited by Stoneshield on 6/17/2012 11:18 AM PDT
90 Blood Elf Rogue
4370
What would get me a bigger fps increase. A new Graphics card (Radeon HD 6870 or a GeForce GTX 560) or a new CPU?
90 Blood Elf Paladin
8895
Stoneshield:

Ignoring pricing? The P8Z77-V. Comes with more features, and the wireless connectivity might come handy on the P8Z77-V.

I'd say go for the Netgear, although if you can find a used Linksys WRT54GL, I'd go for that instead.

Altair:

Depends on what you already have.
90 Blood Elf Rogue
4370
This is the stats of my computer as of now.

Item Value
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name STEVENSON-PC
System Manufacturer eMachines
System Model ET1331G
System Type x64-based PC
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 235e Processor, 2700 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date AMI P01-A0, 8/13/2009
SMBIOS Version 2.6
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514"
User Name Stevenson-PC\Stevenson
Time Zone Central Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 6.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 5.75 GB
Available Physical Memory 3.99 GB
Total Virtual Memory 11.5 GB
Available Virtual Memory 9.18 GB
Page File Space 5.75 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

[Hardware Resources]

[Conflicts/Sharing]

Resource Device
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x0000000F Direct memory access controller
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x0000000F PCI bus

IRQ 20 High Definition Audio Controller
IRQ 20 NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller

IRQ 21 NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller
IRQ 21 Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller

IRQ 22 NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
IRQ 22 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller

Memory Address 0xFEC00000-0xFFFFFFFF System board
Memory Address 0xFEC00000-0xFFFFFFFF Motherboard resources

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF PCI bus

Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xCFFFFFFF NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xCFFFFFFF PCI bus

Memory Address 0xD0000-0xD3FFF Motherboard resources
Memory Address 0xD0000-0xD3FFF PCI bus

[DMA]

Resource Device Status
Channel 4 Direct memory access controller OK
90 Blood Elf Paladin
8895
Priority is a new graphics card, but seeing that it's an eMachine, you WILL have to get a new power supply with a new graphics card (unless you are fine with lower-end graphics card).

Then I would consider swapping out the CPU, motherboard, and RAM.
85 Orc Warrior
7800
Alright Kalg, and 1 more thing, what the heck do these other sub categories of the p8z77-v mean? There's the LE, LX, LK?
90 Blood Elf Paladin
8895
Yeah, ASUS is famous for having tons of sub-models. But the price should tell you what it is. More cheaper = less features.
85 Orc Warrior
7800
Ok sounds good. Any problem with buying refurbished routers? I was going originally with the D-Link considering it was new but if you say the netgear is better I'll listen :)
90 Blood Elf Paladin
8895
Not a whole lot. Just about only refurbished items I would try to stay away from are the hard drives.
85 Orc Warrior
7800
Alrighty, and why is the netgear better? Better company? Never bought a router aside from my first Linksys WRT54G2.
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